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prettyshady 07-13-11 01:00 AM

Tom Simpson
 
http://www.prettyshady.com/2010/up/Scan1.jpg

Italuminium 07-13-11 03:34 AM

That's some proper cycling!

ftwelder 07-13-11 03:34 AM

I just read something about him recently. Top UK racer from the 70's. I think.

bibliobob 07-13-11 05:14 AM

Bar cons and center pulls. I love it.

Was this his final ride on Ventoux?

custermustache 07-13-11 05:24 AM

It's funny to look at races pre helmet.

It's even funnier to realize how recently helmets became standard.

I always toast Tom Simpson whenever people are doing toasts. Or methamphetamine.

bbattle 07-13-11 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by ftwelder (Post 12920962)
I just read something about him recently. Top UK racer from the 70's. I think.

I believe Tommy Simpson died in the 1967 Tour de France.

Yes, here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtAyGvZqiwk

Picchio Special 07-13-11 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by bibliobob (Post 12921078)
Was this his final ride on Ventoux?

It can't be, since he's clearly riding for Gitane in the photo, but was riding for Peugeot at the time of his death.

rhm 07-13-11 05:39 AM

Do I see this correctly: he's on his big chain ring and his biggest cog and his chain is still sagging?

prettyshady 07-13-11 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by bbattle (Post 12921100)
I believe Tommy Simpson died in the 1967 Tour de France.

Yes, here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtAyGvZqiwk

on the 13th of july.

'riders were actually limited to 4 bidons a day'

rhm 07-13-11 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by prettyshady (Post 12921144)
on the 13th of july.

Huh, fancy that! What a coincidence!

Gary Fountain 07-13-11 06:01 AM

Such a tragic story but his death should be a warning to others. Hope his death was not without learning.

Italuminium 07-13-11 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Gary Fountain (Post 12921192)
Such a tragic story but his death should be a warning to others. Hope his death was not without learning.

When I'm on cognac and amphetamines I NEVER attempt to ascend a HC mountain. Tommy taught me well.

tcs 07-13-11 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Italuminium (Post 12920961)
That's some proper cycling!

Simpson on performance enhancing drugs: "If ten will kill you, I'll take nine and win the race."

rhm 07-13-11 06:33 AM

Fausto Coppi, being interviewed about drugs (from wikipedia)
Question: Do cyclists take la bomba (amphetamine)?
Answer: Yes, and those who claim otherwise, it's not worth talking to them about cycling.
Question: And you, did you take la bomba?
Answer: Yes. Whenever it was necessary.
Question: And when was it necessary?
Answer: Almost all the time!

prettyshady 07-13-11 06:51 AM

few more photos,

http://www.prettyshady.com/2010/up/2...dae1c6d0_b.jpg
http://www.prettyshady.com/2010/up/2...033df67e_b.jpg
http://www.prettyshady.com/2010/up/2...5e6119be_b.jpg
http://www.prettyshady.com/2010/up/2...d74008c3_b.jpg


trackosaurusrex.com / flickr.com/photos/chicken_strip/sets/72157608301544304/

Italuminium 07-13-11 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by tcs (Post 12921267)
Simpson on performance enhancing drugs: "If ten will kill you, I'll take nine and win the race."

That's a great quote. Apparently, he miscounted this one fatal time.

dbakl 07-13-11 08:24 AM

The chrome track bike looks like a Carlton...

bbattle 07-13-11 11:29 AM

Because of the circumstances of his death, the Tour officials changed their rules and allowed riders to take bottles from their team cars.

ColonelJLloyd 07-13-11 11:52 AM

Pretty nice teeth for an Englishman in the 60s.

Italuminium 07-13-11 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 12922757)
Pretty nice teeth for an Englishman in the 60s.

or the two o tens, for that matter. Every time I go there, the ugliness of the people slaps me in the face. It seems they poured all their resources in Pippa Middleton and Emma Watson and called it a day.

svt4cam 07-13-11 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Italuminium (Post 12921216)
When I'm on cognac and amphetamines I NEVER attempt to ascend a HC mountain. Tommy taught me well.

I'm reading this on vacation in Bar Harbor Maine and just exploded a very hoppy microbrew out of my nose. I salute your rapier wit!

Italuminium 07-13-11 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by svt4cam (Post 12923047)
I'm reading this on vacation in Bar Harbor Maine and just exploded a very hoppy microbrew out of my nose. I salute your rapier wit!

Rapier wit. I raise my gin tonic to that great - to me newly learned - phrase. cheers!

tcs 07-13-11 05:08 PM

Simpson Memorial on the slope of Mont Ventoux, where he collapsed. I disagree with his approach to competition, but I wouldn't mind if my last words on this earth were the same as his: "Put me back on my bike."

Simpson testing the Moulton bike. "If I wasn't under contract to Peugeot, I'd be happy to ride one."

bikingshearer 07-13-11 09:12 PM

Except he never said "put me back on my bike." That line was invented by a reporter who was not there.

No, the photo is not from his last ride. It looks like a photo of him in the TdF yellow jersey, which he wore for exactly one day some years earlier. There are some shots of him on his last day - seeing them, it is easy to believe that he died that day, as he looked, well, like death warmed over.

Don't forget that Tom Simpson died on a bald mountain on a brutally hot day. It is one of the few places outside the USA I've been to, and that mountain is bare-naked devoid of vegetation outside a scattering of little pants that are no mre than two inches tall, and that might be generous. Every single day is hot, windy or both up there. His last day was hot, as in well over 100 degrees. The peak is something like 6,000 feet elevation - that cannot have helped.

The received wisdom of the day was a nip o' brandy was good to ward off dehydration, so he had a little. He was also incredibly tough and incredibly motivated by the money - of which there was a heck of a lot less than now. (Remember, in Europe, cycling was and largely remains the sport of the blue-collar classes looking ofr a way off the farm or out of the factory or mine, not of the middle class as in the US.) He was 29, and he figured he did not have too many productive years left on the bike. So 1967 was something of a "do or die" year (no pun intended) in his mind. All these factors, plus the speed he took (as did so many others, as noted) allowed him to ride through all the normal signs of heatstroke and keep going. He literally rode himself to death.

bikingshearer 07-13-11 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by dbakl (Post 12921696)
The chrome track bike looks like a Carlton...

It may well be, but because his jersey, shorts and Jakcet say "Peugeot," I'd be very surprised if there was a Carlton sticker anywhere on the bike.


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