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@squirtdad, thumb shifters are a decent idea. I have them on my Super Course, but the effort required to shift is too great. I have to grab the shifter with my entire hand, so they are palm shifters. I'll check to see if there is friction in the cables. Bar end shifters are another idea. But currently, the stem shifters work even better than I had hoped. There is some sort of slack in the rear derailleur which does the overshifting for me and then backs off just the right amount, so it acts like an indexed shifting system. I may want to leave well enough alone.
I've ridden the bike over 50 miles now, and I am amazed at the ride. I had hoped it would be nice, but this exceeds my hopes. It has the spritely feel of the Super Course and it is and feels lighter. It feels lean, long, and lanky. It feels like a extra-long wheelbase bike, though it's probably the same as the Super Course.
I'm tempted to get rid of all my bikes and collect a bunch of Raleigh Internationals and build them up in various ways. That's how much I like this.
I'm not done experimenting, though. If I can get a cassette hub to fit, I might go with a more modern drivetrain. If I can't, I need at least a triple crankset, because the lowest gear is 42x26, which is only about 43 gear inches. Not low enough. With a triple crankset, I will need to replace the rear derailleur and probably the front, too. It's a shame, because Superbe stuff works well and is so pretty. I might get one of @jonwvara's triplizer so I can keep the Campagnolo crank.
I'm also considering trying the Nashbar mustache handlebar I have lying around. I didn't like it last time I tried it, but this time, I'll set it up with a rise instead of a drop, and I might keep the upright brake levers instead of using brake levers intended for drop bars. In other words, I'll mount the brake levers at the ends of the bars, not at the bends.
I now have a dynamo front hub and B&M headlight. I'm still deciding which dynamo tail light to use.
I also added a nice brass bell. It sounds really nice.
I've ridden the bike over 50 miles now, and I am amazed at the ride. I had hoped it would be nice, but this exceeds my hopes. It has the spritely feel of the Super Course and it is and feels lighter. It feels lean, long, and lanky. It feels like a extra-long wheelbase bike, though it's probably the same as the Super Course.
I'm tempted to get rid of all my bikes and collect a bunch of Raleigh Internationals and build them up in various ways. That's how much I like this.
I'm not done experimenting, though. If I can get a cassette hub to fit, I might go with a more modern drivetrain. If I can't, I need at least a triple crankset, because the lowest gear is 42x26, which is only about 43 gear inches. Not low enough. With a triple crankset, I will need to replace the rear derailleur and probably the front, too. It's a shame, because Superbe stuff works well and is so pretty. I might get one of @jonwvara's triplizer so I can keep the Campagnolo crank.
I'm also considering trying the Nashbar mustache handlebar I have lying around. I didn't like it last time I tried it, but this time, I'll set it up with a rise instead of a drop, and I might keep the upright brake levers instead of using brake levers intended for drop bars. In other words, I'll mount the brake levers at the ends of the bars, not at the bends.
I now have a dynamo front hub and B&M headlight. I'm still deciding which dynamo tail light to use.
I also added a nice brass bell. It sounds really nice.
fwiw my set up is:
Cheapie Sunrace shifters on a nitto promendade bar.
shifter housing goes from handle bar to stop on down tube
bare shifter wire from there to the derailler loop
so relatively little cable run.
Sram 8 speed cassed
Shimano deore something long cage derailler.
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01-20-16, 03:00 PM
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and since I forgot.....really nice bike an build
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01-20-16, 03:09 PM
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That bike looks sweet Tom, very impressive and I hope that it serves you well.
I also pray for your returned health and enjoyment in cycling.
I also pray for your returned health and enjoyment in cycling.
01-20-16, 03:16 PM
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@jonwvara, you're right. I might as well use a triple crank or triplizer and see how bad it is without changing the derailleurs. Since I don't plan to change the freewheel, the derailleur won't bash against the biggest cog. I might have a dangling chain but only in my small chainring. What are the practical considerations for choosing the granny chainwheel besides the gear ratio? 34T would be low enough for me, but lower would be nice, too. I suspect anything will fit.
@NYMXer, I'm getting better already. I saw the doctor yesterday for a followup. I told him I'm doing the shoulder exercises by myself, and he said in that case, I don't have to continue with PT. He tested my strength and said it's good, and at this point, that's more important than the fact that I don't have my full range of motion back yet. I asked him about my back. He gave me some stretching and strengthening exercises, so I'll do those, too.
Thank you, @NYMXer and @squirtdad.
@NYMXer, I'm getting better already. I saw the doctor yesterday for a followup. I told him I'm doing the shoulder exercises by myself, and he said in that case, I don't have to continue with PT. He tested my strength and said it's good, and at this point, that's more important than the fact that I don't have my full range of motion back yet. I asked him about my back. He gave me some stretching and strengthening exercises, so I'll do those, too.
Thank you, @NYMXer and @squirtdad.
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01-20-16, 03:18 PM
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I rode the bike to work this morning and will ride back home this evening. The upright position gave me a little disadvantage in the strong headwinds I faced, but it's not that bad. I just leaned down. I do want to make a handlebar change of some kind.
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BTW Adina is trained in restorative yoga if you have questions and we use a practice in Midtown that integrates chiropractic, PT, acupuncture, orthopedics with a holistic and natural center. That's the folks bringing my knee back. Glad to refer them. Just sent a work colleague who also had an injured and frozen shoulder followed by pinched nerve issues and he's getting positive results.
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Nitto Albastache (new Moustache) Bar 26.0 - 16244
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@ascherer that sounds the most appealing of all the ideas I've received, and I've received many. I'll be in touch.
@fender1, those look nice, but the price! My Nashbar bars look similar anyway.
@fender1, those look nice, but the price! My Nashbar bars look similar anyway.
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Great looking bike, especially once you switched out to the B17
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@fender1, I love how you get me to look at my frugality different. I will consider that plan. Currently, I think the next experiment is to put the Nashbar bars in but flipped to the position where it gives a rise, not a drop. It might have too much rise at that point, so it definitely won't be too low.
@bmthom.gis, I'm getting to the point where I want a B17 on every bike. It seems crazy to spend so much on saddles. I borrowed this one from my Bianchi Volpe. And thank you.
@bmthom.gis, I'm getting to the point where I want a B17 on every bike. It seems crazy to spend so much on saddles. I borrowed this one from my Bianchi Volpe. And thank you.
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@fender1, I love how you get me to look at my frugality different. I will consider that plan. Currently, I think the next experiment is to put the Nashbar bars in but flipped to the position where it gives a rise, not a drop. It might have too much rise at that point, so it definitely won't be too low.
@bmthom.gis, I'm getting to the point where I want a B17 on every bike. It seems crazy to spend so much on saddles. I borrowed this one from my Bianchi Volpe. And thank you.
@bmthom.gis, I'm getting to the point where I want a B17 on every bike. It seems crazy to spend so much on saddles. I borrowed this one from my Bianchi Volpe. And thank you.
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I'm with you, and if not specifically a B17, then at least a Brooks. I'd like to try a Flyer out sometime. At least you can always sell them down the line if your desires change and get a decent amount of money back. It's worth to watch Amazon for sales on Brooks. I got my B66 for something like $110, whereas they normally sell for closer to $150. My thought is if they comfortably last me a few decades and make me want to ride more, the price is what it is, and there is no need to shell out for much more than the basic models
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Progress. In a way, I'm content with this bike being an eternal work in progress. I tried about five different handlebars and various configurations on my Super Course, and maybe I'll do that with this.
Right now, I have Nitto mustache bars on it, and I like them a lot. I previously used Nashbar mustache bars on another bike, and I hated them. It could be because of the particular bend, and it could be because the bars were too low, and the stem's extension was too long. I figured that with this bend, I'll want a tall stem with a short extension, so I bought a new stem like that.
The freewheel is 13-26, so I can replace this 1970s Tourney GS with the Superbe I had on it, but, uh, I can't find it. The Superbe shifts a little better.
These stem shifters have proven to be useful for switching handlebars around. I think I'll switch to sold 1970s Shimano bar-end shifters, and they'll probably be better. But these stem shifters have built in overshift, so shifting is usually quick.
The pedals are OK but narrow. A woman from China sent them to me for free so I would review them. Can you folks recommend some super wide pedals? I'm not using cleats or toe clips currently.
Front wheel: Velo Orange dynamo hub with Velo Orange rim
Rear wheel: Campagnolo Record hub with Ambrosio Elite rim
Tires: Vittoria Voyager Hyper
Headlight: B&M
Tail lights: Spanninga Pixeo and Cygolite Hotshot (one on top of the other)
Front derailleur: SunTour Superbe
Rear derailleur: Shimano Tourney GS
Saddle: Brooks B17
Crank: Campagnolo Super Record
BB: mixture of Campy & Sugino
Brake levers: XLC
Brake calipers: Tektro R556
Chain: KMC
Seatpost: Sugino
Pedals: Kactus
Shifters: SunTour ratchet
Stem: Origin 8
Handlebars: Nitto
Right now, I have Nitto mustache bars on it, and I like them a lot. I previously used Nashbar mustache bars on another bike, and I hated them. It could be because of the particular bend, and it could be because the bars were too low, and the stem's extension was too long. I figured that with this bend, I'll want a tall stem with a short extension, so I bought a new stem like that.
The freewheel is 13-26, so I can replace this 1970s Tourney GS with the Superbe I had on it, but, uh, I can't find it. The Superbe shifts a little better.
These stem shifters have proven to be useful for switching handlebars around. I think I'll switch to sold 1970s Shimano bar-end shifters, and they'll probably be better. But these stem shifters have built in overshift, so shifting is usually quick.
The pedals are OK but narrow. A woman from China sent them to me for free so I would review them. Can you folks recommend some super wide pedals? I'm not using cleats or toe clips currently.
Front wheel: Velo Orange dynamo hub with Velo Orange rim
Rear wheel: Campagnolo Record hub with Ambrosio Elite rim
Tires: Vittoria Voyager Hyper
Headlight: B&M
Tail lights: Spanninga Pixeo and Cygolite Hotshot (one on top of the other)
Front derailleur: SunTour Superbe
Rear derailleur: Shimano Tourney GS
Saddle: Brooks B17
Crank: Campagnolo Super Record
BB: mixture of Campy & Sugino
Brake levers: XLC
Brake calipers: Tektro R556
Chain: KMC
Seatpost: Sugino
Pedals: Kactus
Shifters: SunTour ratchet
Stem: Origin 8
Handlebars: Nitto
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06-12-16, 06:22 PM
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In @jyl's thread about souping up his Bianchi Specialissima, I mentioned that I can't fit a 7-speed freewheel into this frame because the chain stay interferes with the last cog. Someone -- I think @fender1 -- suggested I try a cassette hub, so I did. I took my wheel with 10-speed Campagnolo cassette hub from my Lemond. Spreading the frame and getting the wheel in is quite hard, but once I get the hub in the dropouts, yup, the cassette has enough room because the last cogs are so small. That's encouraging, in case I decide to do that. In the meantime, I'm using a 6-speed freewheel, which isn't too bad.
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In @jyl's thread about souping up his Bianchi Specialissima, I mentioned that I can't fit a 7-speed freewheel into this frame because the chain stay interferes with the last cog. Someone -- I think @fender1 -- suggested I try a cassette hub, so I did. I took my wheel with 10-speed Campagnolo cassette hub from my Lemond. Spreading the frame and getting the wheel in is quite hard, but once I get the hub in the dropouts, yup, the cassette has enough room because the last cogs are so small. That's encouraging, in case I decide to do that. In the meantime, I'm using a 6-speed freewheel, which isn't too bad.
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Progress. In a way....
Front wheel: Velo Orange dynamo hub with Velo Orange rim
Rear wheel: Campagnolo Record hub with Ambrosio Elite rim
Tires: Vittoria Voyager Hyper
Headlight: B&M
Tail lights: Spanninga Pixeo and Cygolite Hotshot (one on top of the other)
Front derailleur: SunTour Superbe
Rear derailleur: Shimano Tourney GS
Saddle: Brooks B17
Crank: Campagnolo Super Record
BB: mixture of Campy & Sugino
Brake levers: XLC
Brake calipers: Tektro R556
Chain: KMC
Seatpost: Sugino
Pedals: Kactus
Shifters: SunTour ratchet
Stem: Origin 8
Handlebars: Nitto
Front wheel: Velo Orange dynamo hub with Velo Orange rim
Rear wheel: Campagnolo Record hub with Ambrosio Elite rim
Tires: Vittoria Voyager Hyper
Headlight: B&M
Tail lights: Spanninga Pixeo and Cygolite Hotshot (one on top of the other)
Front derailleur: SunTour Superbe
Rear derailleur: Shimano Tourney GS
Saddle: Brooks B17
Crank: Campagnolo Super Record
BB: mixture of Campy & Sugino
Brake levers: XLC
Brake calipers: Tektro R556
Chain: KMC
Seatpost: Sugino
Pedals: Kactus
Shifters: SunTour ratchet
Stem: Origin 8
Handlebars: Nitto
06-13-16, 11:25 AM
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I've been riding it a lot. I rode it today. It's very comfortable. I'm using two or three hand positions. I think I've found that I like a bike that allows me to reach forward but not very low. I like the hand position where my hands are all the way back on the widest part, and I use that the most, as it's relaxing. I reach forward when I pedal harder.
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I'll bet that you would find it more comfortable if your brake levers kicked down instead of up. It worked for me. It was just a matter of removing the cables, pushing out the pins and swapping sides.
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I'll try that. Thanks. I have already tipped the bars since shooting these pictures. The front is down and the back is up.
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On Wednesday, I brought my frame to Hal, the head mechanic at Bicycle Habitat on Lafayette St in Manhattan. I had him spread the dropouts to 130mm in preparation for my drivetrain change. Of course, he also aligned the dropouts so they are parallel.
I met him in his home, because he doesn't have the proper tools at the shop. He used a frame alignment table.
Before he started, he checked to see if the seat and down tubes were perpendicular to the BB shell. They weren't! It was easy to correct those problems. I'm not sure how much they mattered, but I'm also glad to have fixed those problems.
The dropouts were spaced at 120mm, and they were not centered on the frame, so we corrected the centering as well as increasing the spacing.
My plan is to install a 3x8 drivetrain.
I found the hub I was missing: It's a Shimano 105 rear hub with 130mm spacing and drilling for 32 spokes. I could use this, or I could use a Bontrager complete wheel I have which has only 24 spokes. I think I'll start with the Bontrager, only because it's ready. If I break it, it's not a disaster, and in the meantime, I'll enjoy a lightweight wheel.
I have some used Shimano Sora brifters and rear derailleur and an Ultegra front derailleur. I have an Ultegra crankset with replacement middle and large chainrings. All of these components are used, and I hope the rear derailleur and brifters aren't worn. They appear to be in very good condition. I have a new cassette; I think it's SRAM.
I need the fixing bolt that goes on the left side of the BB spindle. I'll inquire at some LBSs. I might also need a spacer for the cassette.
I met him in his home, because he doesn't have the proper tools at the shop. He used a frame alignment table.
Before he started, he checked to see if the seat and down tubes were perpendicular to the BB shell. They weren't! It was easy to correct those problems. I'm not sure how much they mattered, but I'm also glad to have fixed those problems.
The dropouts were spaced at 120mm, and they were not centered on the frame, so we corrected the centering as well as increasing the spacing.
My plan is to install a 3x8 drivetrain.
I found the hub I was missing: It's a Shimano 105 rear hub with 130mm spacing and drilling for 32 spokes. I could use this, or I could use a Bontrager complete wheel I have which has only 24 spokes. I think I'll start with the Bontrager, only because it's ready. If I break it, it's not a disaster, and in the meantime, I'll enjoy a lightweight wheel.
I have some used Shimano Sora brifters and rear derailleur and an Ultegra front derailleur. I have an Ultegra crankset with replacement middle and large chainrings. All of these components are used, and I hope the rear derailleur and brifters aren't worn. They appear to be in very good condition. I have a new cassette; I think it's SRAM.
I need the fixing bolt that goes on the left side of the BB spindle. I'll inquire at some LBSs. I might also need a spacer for the cassette.
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I forgot to mention that the Vittoria Voyager Hyper tires are fantastic, but they'll have to go. They measure 37mm or so, and the clearance between tire and chainstays is dangerously small. If the wheel goes out of true, I'm in trouble. I plan to install fenders, which would change it from dangerous to impossible. I'll be installing 32mm tires, and that will probably be good.
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