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Originally Posted by SANTE POLLASTRI
(Post 13101122)
neo primato....
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While I can respect drillium for the amount of care it takes to accomplish, to me it screams metal fatigue and can look over-worked. Although I think Sugino made some of the nicest drilled chain rings going.
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Ever the utilitarian, I have two favorite frame features:
Wide tire clearance! And double eyelets for fenders and a rack. The spoke holder is way cool, too. I had a kuwahara for a couple weeks that had that feature, but it was too big for me. Do lugs count? |
Originally Posted by khatfull
(Post 13101571)
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I was gonna' mention graceful fork curves; I hate straight forks. Then I saw that auchencrow already mentioned that.
Chrome, gimme' chrome. |
Full sloping fork crown like on my Raleigh Competition and despite my custom bike is lugged. I have a closet passion for fillet brazed frames. Just smoothness all around. I'm not much of a fancy artistic jewerly like lugs. I appreciate and admire the work that goes into them but I like a clean simplistic build. I miss panto'd and drillium work on components. It think it would be really cool if Campy did it on their Athena or Centaur aluminum groupsets. Drilled levers, chainrings, FD clamp and cages and RD cages then gum hoods to top it off. We all can dream right?
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The more I'm around modern, mass-production bikes, the more I appreciate:
Small tubing carefully and aesthetically angled, and either good lugwork in steel or careful aligning and polishing of aluminum joints. |
Just about this whole bike has awesome features. Sucks that it too small.
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...r_Sale1208.jpg http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...r_Sale1220.jpg http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...r_Sale1215.jpg http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...r_Sale1221.jpg http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...r_Sale1213.jpg http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...r_Sale1209.jpg |
Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
(Post 13101352)
The problem with chroming the seat lug and BB shell is the unfortunate fact that they're both impossible to clean up scratches and file marks to the nth degree required for chrome. Every little stray file mark would show up, unlike after a couple coats of primer and then the topcoat. At least, that's the way it was explained to me when I requested chrome in those areas when speccing my first custom.
However, I once saw a way around it on one of Jerry Duran's frames: stainless steel Henry James lugs and BB shells. As he points out, chrome plating has microscopic cracks in it, and humidity/temperature changes can result in moisture getting under the plating via those cracks. Over a period of time, the area in question can be weakened. Not what I'd want at my BB shell! DD |
Originally Posted by khatfull
(Post 13102155)
Huh, then why chrome an entire frame?
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
(Post 13098727)
but I tell you one favorite and over looked feature is a nice pump peg.
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Unique lugs (Capella, Nervex, &c), clean forged dropouts (namely front fork, honestly), brake bridges
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I like these bits...
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Flat crown forks and Over the BB cables.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=215245http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=215244 |
ICR, chromed seatstays..
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The nicest drilled crankset was the Stronglight 105 bis.
http://velobase.com/CompImages/Crank...062A4C2A3.jpeg It came on my Peugeot PXN-10LE, and it was pretty but a bit too flashy. I was embarrassed when people admired it. realestvin7, where can one buy one of those "brake rise" adapters? I'm intrigued. |
I love just a little asymmetry, like when the chain side stay is chromed but the other side isn't.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect
(Post 13103953)
I love just a little asymmetry, like when the chain side stay is chromed but the other side isn't.
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Nice curved fork legs and beautifullied crafted lugs.
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Originally Posted by khatfull
(Post 13102155)
Huh, then why chrome an entire frame?
The info came from one of the "Hot Tubes" features in one of my Bicycle Guide magazines from the mid-90s. I once heard of a similar remark attributed to Ernesto Colnago in explaining away the ugly chrome decal he placed on the chainstay of the early 80s super. Hah. That was more likely a cost cutting measure, because in subsequent years the frames got more and more chrome, including the odd fully-chromed or even gold plated versions. DD |
Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
(Post 13100580)
Dropouts:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/...edd6ba80_b.jpg I particularly like the "Italian treatment" most of all, however. DD maybe you'll like these in stead. http://www.torontovintagebikes.com/u...60831_orig.jpg |
Cable stops brazed under the top tube. I hate the braze-ons above the top tube that require 1 piece of cable from lever to brake, functionally and aesthetically.
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Don't know about "favorite" but I'm always impressed by custom metal work... example on the Vanilla touring bike... front brake hanger thingy...
http://vanillabicycles.com/frames/touring/1/lrg/9.jpg |
Originally Posted by Soma Roark
(Post 13105814)
Don't know about "favorite" but I'm always impressed by custom metal work... example on the Vanilla touring bike... front brake hanger thingy...
http://vanillabicycles.com/frames/touring/1/lrg/9.jpg Beautiful! |
that does look nice.. but the threaded stem ruins it :'(
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