Favorite Frame Feature
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Favorite Frame Feature
I really miss the older fork crowns. The switch from investment cast crowns with two fork blades to unicrowns or other designs was a major catastrophy. I appreciate the production efficiency of a unicrown but bemoan the loss of my favorite feature. On balance, I'd rather pay for the conventional fork crown than save $2.
Double plates
Flat Wagner
Cinelli full sloping
Semi sloping
Even the funky Raleigh crown made of another tube was at least interesting and caught my attention when I first saw it. Add in the fork lock, which was a natural fit for that design, and it becomes almost intriguing. We do need locks, right? Why"lug" around a 5 lb lock when you can have one built into your fork? Well, I don't want to go overboard here because it is far from my favorite.
Double plates
Flat Wagner
Cinelli full sloping
Semi sloping
Even the funky Raleigh crown made of another tube was at least interesting and caught my attention when I first saw it. Add in the fork lock, which was a natural fit for that design, and it becomes almost intriguing. We do need locks, right? Why"lug" around a 5 lb lock when you can have one built into your fork? Well, I don't want to go overboard here because it is far from my favorite.
Last edited by Mike Mills; 08-18-11 at 05:00 PM.
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Hands down my favorite feature is the little chain keeper nub some bikes have on the driveside chainstay.
I love sloping fork crowns too. Especially with some panto on em.
I love sloping fork crowns too. Especially with some panto on em.
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For me, it's the seat stay cluster. This is where a framebuilder can really show off his/her aesthetic sense. I'd place the fork crown at #2 (and not far behind). Other than that, I agree with everything MIle said.
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I agree.
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I like nice luggs, and crowns are it for me. but I tell you one favorite and over looked feature is a nice pump peg.
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+1 on the chain hanger
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There are quite a few I love...
Graceful looking internal routing.
Chromed chain stays.
Chromed headlugs.
Cinelli fast back stays.
Engraved panto on a BB shell.
Cinelli BB shells.
Long point lugs.
DRILLED DROPOUTS!
Graceful looking internal routing.
Chromed chain stays.
Chromed headlugs.
Cinelli fast back stays.
Engraved panto on a BB shell.
Cinelli BB shells.
Long point lugs.
DRILLED DROPOUTS!
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Dropouts:

I particularly like the "Italian treatment" most of all, however.
DD

I particularly like the "Italian treatment" most of all, however.
DD
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I love my Peugeot PSV's sloping frok crown with the Peugeot lion "pantographs" on it, the most on my bike

.....On the other hand, most unicrowns that came right after were just so Uggah-pooh looking. I think it actually made me lose interest in new bicycles when they came out in the late 80's/early 90s....then it's just down hill from there with compact frames, upturned threadless stems and all the brifter and ergo bar style trimmings........blehhhhh.....And what the heck happened to chain hanger pegs??!!
Chombi

.....On the other hand, most unicrowns that came right after were just so Uggah-pooh looking. I think it actually made me lose interest in new bicycles when they came out in the late 80's/early 90s....then it's just down hill from there with compact frames, upturned threadless stems and all the brifter and ergo bar style trimmings........blehhhhh.....And what the heck happened to chain hanger pegs??!!
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First of all, Mike, Thank You!! I was just about to write this forum off...
Like: Fork Crowns, flat or semi sloping, plated.
Long point lugs, filed but with a crisp shore line.
Plating: crowns, head lugs, dropout faces, driveside chainstay and sometimes seat stay ends. OR, completely plated!
Reinforcing bits at bridges etc.
Fluted stay ends.
Not Like: IC lugs, short point lugs, wrap over seat stays, plug in fork ends and dropouts, straight forks,
Like: Fork Crowns, flat or semi sloping, plated.
Long point lugs, filed but with a crisp shore line.
Plating: crowns, head lugs, dropout faces, driveside chainstay and sometimes seat stay ends. OR, completely plated!
Reinforcing bits at bridges etc.
Fluted stay ends.
Not Like: IC lugs, short point lugs, wrap over seat stays, plug in fork ends and dropouts, straight forks,
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people always hate on unicrown forks in this forum, but non-sloping forks can be far uglier imo.
i think this fork looks better


than this one

my favorite feature has to be the spoke holder/chainstay protector on my diamondback

the underchainstay ubrake is also pretty cool. it's got a chainhanger too
i think this fork looks better


than this one

my favorite feature has to be the spoke holder/chainstay protector on my diamondback

the underchainstay ubrake is also pretty cool. it's got a chainhanger too
#19
Pantographing and frame personalization.
If people can't identify your frame stripped bare of all paint and decals, in my opinion, you didn't do the best job. Probably, all your company made for the bike was the frame, if you can't even make that your own, you just built a disposable bike.
Minimum personalization, in my opinion, is a riveted metal head badge.
If people can't identify your frame stripped bare of all paint and decals, in my opinion, you didn't do the best job. Probably, all your company made for the bike was the frame, if you can't even make that your own, you just built a disposable bike.
Minimum personalization, in my opinion, is a riveted metal head badge.
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However, I once saw a way around it on one of Jerry Duran's frames: stainless steel Henry James lugs and BB shells. As he points out, chrome plating has microscopic cracks in it, and humidity/temperature changes can result in moisture getting under the plating via those cracks. Over a period of time, the area in question can be weakened.
Not what I'd want at my BB shell!
DD
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