Favorite Frame Feature
#26
While I can respect drillium for the amount of care it takes to accomplish, to me it screams metal fatigue and can look over-worked. Although I think Sugino made some of the nicest drilled chain rings going.
#27
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Ever the utilitarian, I have two favorite frame features:
Wide tire clearance!
And double eyelets for fenders and a rack.
The spoke holder is way cool, too. I had a kuwahara for a couple weeks that had that feature, but it was too big for me.
Do lugs count?
Wide tire clearance!
And double eyelets for fenders and a rack.
The spoke holder is way cool, too. I had a kuwahara for a couple weeks that had that feature, but it was too big for me.
Do lugs count?
#29
What??? Only 2 wheels?


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I was gonna' mention graceful fork curves; I hate straight forks. Then I saw that auchencrow already mentioned that.
Chrome, gimme' chrome.
Chrome, gimme' chrome.
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#30
Full sloping fork crown like on my Raleigh Competition and despite my custom bike is lugged. I have a closet passion for fillet brazed frames. Just smoothness all around. I'm not much of a fancy artistic jewerly like lugs. I appreciate and admire the work that goes into them but I like a clean simplistic build. I miss panto'd and drillium work on components. It think it would be really cool if Campy did it on their Athena or Centaur aluminum groupsets. Drilled levers, chainrings, FD clamp and cages and RD cages then gum hoods to top it off. We all can dream right?
#33
The problem with chroming the seat lug and BB shell is the unfortunate fact that they're both impossible to clean up scratches and file marks to the nth degree required for chrome. Every little stray file mark would show up, unlike after a couple coats of primer and then the topcoat. At least, that's the way it was explained to me when I requested chrome in those areas when speccing my first custom.
However, I once saw a way around it on one of Jerry Duran's frames: stainless steel Henry James lugs and BB shells. As he points out, chrome plating has microscopic cracks in it, and humidity/temperature changes can result in moisture getting under the plating via those cracks. Over a period of time, the area in question can be weakened.
Not what I'd want at my BB shell!
DD
However, I once saw a way around it on one of Jerry Duran's frames: stainless steel Henry James lugs and BB shells. As he points out, chrome plating has microscopic cracks in it, and humidity/temperature changes can result in moisture getting under the plating via those cracks. Over a period of time, the area in question can be weakened.
Not what I'd want at my BB shell!
DD
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The nicest drilled crankset was the Stronglight 105 bis.

It came on my Peugeot PXN-10LE, and it was pretty but a bit too flashy. I was embarrassed when people admired it.
realestvin7, where can one buy one of those "brake rise" adapters? I'm intrigued.

It came on my Peugeot PXN-10LE, and it was pretty but a bit too flashy. I was embarrassed when people admired it.
realestvin7, where can one buy one of those "brake rise" adapters? I'm intrigued.
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I like that too...and like it half chromed even more.
#43
I shoulda added a disclaimer: that was Jerry's view and not mine; I don't have enough to knowledge about those sorts of details. However, I figure a framebuilder probably has that kind of knowledge.
The info came from one of the "Hot Tubes" features in one of my Bicycle Guide magazines from the mid-90s.
I once heard of a similar remark attributed to Ernesto Colnago in explaining away the ugly chrome decal he placed on the chainstay of the early 80s super. Hah. That was more likely a cost cutting measure, because in subsequent years the frames got more and more chrome, including the odd fully-chromed or even gold plated versions.
DD
The info came from one of the "Hot Tubes" features in one of my Bicycle Guide magazines from the mid-90s.
I once heard of a similar remark attributed to Ernesto Colnago in explaining away the ugly chrome decal he placed on the chainstay of the early 80s super. Hah. That was more likely a cost cutting measure, because in subsequent years the frames got more and more chrome, including the odd fully-chromed or even gold plated versions.
DD
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Don't know about "favorite" but I'm always impressed by custom metal work... example on the Vanilla touring bike... front brake hanger thingy...
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#50
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^ nice lugwork.. i like it when you can tell the builder took time to finish the frame, filing down the lugs, etc. The first bike i ever flipped was a Univega Gran Premio which you could tell had lots of hand finishing done to it.














