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Old 08-18-11 | 08:26 PM
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While I can respect drillium for the amount of care it takes to accomplish, to me it screams metal fatigue and can look over-worked. Although I think Sugino made some of the nicest drilled chain rings going.
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Old 08-18-11 | 08:26 PM
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Ever the utilitarian, I have two favorite frame features:

Wide tire clearance!

And double eyelets for fenders and a rack.

The spoke holder is way cool, too. I had a kuwahara for a couple weeks that had that feature, but it was too big for me.

Do lugs count?
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Old 08-18-11 | 08:40 PM
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Did someone say dropouts?

Oh baby!
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Old 08-18-11 | 09:46 PM
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I was gonna' mention graceful fork curves; I hate straight forks. Then I saw that auchencrow already mentioned that.

Chrome, gimme' chrome.
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Old 08-18-11 | 10:04 PM
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Full sloping fork crown like on my Raleigh Competition and despite my custom bike is lugged. I have a closet passion for fillet brazed frames. Just smoothness all around. I'm not much of a fancy artistic jewerly like lugs. I appreciate and admire the work that goes into them but I like a clean simplistic build. I miss panto'd and drillium work on components. It think it would be really cool if Campy did it on their Athena or Centaur aluminum groupsets. Drilled levers, chainrings, FD clamp and cages and RD cages then gum hoods to top it off. We all can dream right?
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Old 08-18-11 | 10:17 PM
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The more I'm around modern, mass-production bikes, the more I appreciate:

Small tubing carefully and aesthetically angled, and

either good lugwork in steel or careful aligning and polishing of aluminum joints.
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Old 08-18-11 | 10:18 PM
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Just about this whole bike has awesome features. Sucks that it too small.











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Old 08-18-11 | 10:39 PM
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The problem with chroming the seat lug and BB shell is the unfortunate fact that they're both impossible to clean up scratches and file marks to the nth degree required for chrome. Every little stray file mark would show up, unlike after a couple coats of primer and then the topcoat. At least, that's the way it was explained to me when I requested chrome in those areas when speccing my first custom.

However, I once saw a way around it on one of Jerry Duran's frames: stainless steel Henry James lugs and BB shells. As he points out, chrome plating has microscopic cracks in it, and humidity/temperature changes can result in moisture getting under the plating via those cracks. Over a period of time, the area in question can be weakened.

Not what I'd want at my BB shell!

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Huh, then why chrome an entire frame?
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Old 08-18-11 | 11:14 PM
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Huh, then why chrome an entire frame?
To add extra weight so it doesn't get too light!
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Old 08-18-11 | 11:48 PM
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but I tell you one favorite and over looked feature is a nice pump peg.
you're still talking about bikes right?
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Old 08-18-11 | 11:55 PM
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Unique lugs (Capella, Nervex, &c), clean forged dropouts (namely front fork, honestly), brake bridges
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Old 08-19-11 | 12:08 AM
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I like these bits...

Flat crown forks and Over the BB cables.


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Old 08-19-11 | 04:57 AM
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ICR, chromed seatstays..
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Old 08-19-11 | 10:21 AM
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The nicest drilled crankset was the Stronglight 105 bis.



It came on my Peugeot PXN-10LE, and it was pretty but a bit too flashy. I was embarrassed when people admired it.

realestvin7, where can one buy one of those "brake rise" adapters? I'm intrigued.
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Old 08-19-11 | 10:38 AM
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I love just a little asymmetry, like when the chain side stay is chromed but the other side isn't.
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Old 08-19-11 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect
I love just a little asymmetry, like when the chain side stay is chromed but the other side isn't.
I like that too...and like it half chromed even more.
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Old 08-19-11 | 10:48 AM
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Nice curved fork legs and beautifullied crafted lugs.
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Old 08-19-11 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by khatfull
Huh, then why chrome an entire frame?
I shoulda added a disclaimer: that was Jerry's view and not mine; I don't have enough to knowledge about those sorts of details. However, I figure a framebuilder probably has that kind of knowledge.

The info came from one of the "Hot Tubes" features in one of my Bicycle Guide magazines from the mid-90s.

I once heard of a similar remark attributed to Ernesto Colnago in explaining away the ugly chrome decal he placed on the chainstay of the early 80s super. Hah. That was more likely a cost cutting measure, because in subsequent years the frames got more and more chrome, including the odd fully-chromed or even gold plated versions.

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Old 08-19-11 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Dropouts:



I particularly like the "Italian treatment" most of all, however.


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Drillium man! i found it very unfitting that u posted a picture of a rear drop out with no drillium in it, i'm kinda rather shocked and appauled.

maybe you'll like these in stead.

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Old 08-19-11 | 04:51 PM
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Cable stops brazed under the top tube. I hate the braze-ons above the top tube that require 1 piece of cable from lever to brake, functionally and aesthetically.
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Old 08-19-11 | 04:59 PM
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Don't know about "favorite" but I'm always impressed by custom metal work... example on the Vanilla touring bike... front brake hanger thingy...
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Old 08-19-11 | 05:34 PM
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Don't know about "favorite" but I'm always impressed by custom metal work... example on the Vanilla touring bike... front brake hanger thingy...
I know these pics well from my frequent visits to the site.

Beautiful!
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Old 08-19-11 | 05:34 PM
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that does look nice.. but the threaded stem ruins it :'(
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Old 08-19-11 | 05:37 PM
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I like these:





or even these:

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Old 08-19-11 | 05:49 PM
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^ nice lugwork.. i like it when you can tell the builder took time to finish the frame, filing down the lugs, etc. The first bike i ever flipped was a Univega Gran Premio which you could tell had lots of hand finishing done to it.
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