Talk about your basic classic and vintage bike! Does this bike look 1927 to you? And if so, wouldn't it be worth a little more than $350?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/rare-1927-ma...item43a9677f83

BTW, I just stumbled across my grail bike.....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Montgomery-W...item4cf9c83dee

Looks like a 1953 Schwinn to me. I've been known to be wrong in the past, though; don't quote me if I'm wrong .

It looks like lipstick on a pig. I like the bits, but not the frame.

The tiny seat post diameter suggests to me, in no way an expert on very old machines, that it could be that old as I saw a circa 1900 track machine with the same.

See:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...0#post13103560

Personally, I think the 'Zenith' is cool. I'm interested to know how old fillet-brazed bike frames are.

Fillet brazing is roughly five thousand years old, so the window of opportunity is pretty wide. I know Schwinn was filletting by the 30s. Zenith was made by CCM, for reference (as I recall).

would any builder have built a track bike with the seat stays like that? just seems very low end, stamped drops, but I know enough to know I don't know anything.

Yes, indeed.

I dunno but the tops of the seat stays look very of-the-period to me and the flattened fork ends too. Again, the Dayton I posted the link to above has the same.

Looks to be a little bit of a frankenbike. The crank sprocket is a skip tooth Schwinn sweetheart. That seatpost looks like it's in spacer shim. The wheels or at least the rear new departure model d hub is from the late 30's.
The front fork looks nearly identical to a Schwinn New World DF.
The frame itself could very well be original. Maybe. The serial number he is showing could also very well make it a 1953 Schwinn New World.
Ya pays your money and ya takes your chances.


found this pic of a post war New World

That coaster brake is early 40s and the wheels don't look right to me either. Cool bike but I'm the kind of guy who thinks pigs look good in lipstick.

Can't guarantee it, but I think that bike looks too much like a Schwinn.
New Worlds had a small round headbadge, not the ballon tire oval.
I'd like to look under that zenith headbadge to see if there is another set of holes.
The brass screws holding that zenith headbadge on don't have the same patina as the badge either.

It's old but it's not a track machine. Just a roadster tarted up a bit.