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11-28-11, 12:35 AM
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11-28-11, 12:45 AM
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11-29-11, 05:23 AM
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I just took a look at the new Olmo models, here at this link https://www.olmo.it/eng/media.aspx, anyone did the same here?
What's your feeling?
What's your feeling?
11-30-11, 02:52 PM
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12-01-11, 11:10 AM
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How about Simoncini then? Columbus Max?
My first posting here but here's my Simoncini
Columbus Max tubing, (rotated elliptical) which is sculpture in steel IMHO: ) Pictured here with basic Campy gear but a classy machine. Just been refinished so no decals, but check the pantos: ) Don't need decals, does it?
Simoncini is a very small builder but high quality and the Max tubing is still top grade steel.
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Columbus Max tubing, (rotated elliptical) which is sculpture in steel IMHO: ) Pictured here with basic Campy gear but a classy machine. Just been refinished so no decals, but check the pantos: ) Don't need decals, does it?
Simoncini is a very small builder but high quality and the Max tubing is still top grade steel.
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12-01-11, 11:32 AM
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12-02-11, 09:11 AM
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As I sit here with by bumb knee iced on the couch, I am looking at a beautiful '80 Mercian Superlight with some very fine lugwork. Inspecting the bottom bracket, I can see that the silver was properly drawn completely along the tube socket. The lugs are properly finished, and it was painted very nicely. According to the serial number, the person who did this fine craftmanship is builder number 2. No one knows or cares who on God's-green-earth "builder number 2" is because he has the same pedigree as if his title were scrolling accross the screen as credits to a B-rated movie.
There is little difference between the talents of Mr. Confente, Mr. Moulton, Mr. Appel, or good old builder number 2.
There is little difference between the talents of Mr. Confente, Mr. Moulton, Mr. Appel, or good old builder number 2.
Builder #2 was a builder named Cyril Wagstaff! The guy on the right has been at Mercian since 1965 and worked with Cyril for years. I took this photo a couple years ago and, at that time, Mercian had 3 frame builders and two painters. Great people. And, they were able to promptly tell me who made my 1965 bike, from the maker's mark (#2). It was Cyril Wagstaff, who was then retired and off riding his bike across Africa! And, I agree. My Cyril Wagstaff frame is beautifully finished and stacks up against anything else that I've ever seen.
12-02-11, 09:53 AM
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My first posting here but here's my Simoncinihttps://[IMG]https://i1212.photobucket....jpg[/IMG]
Columbus Max tubing, (rotated elliptical) which is sculpture in steel IMHO: ) Pictured here with basic Campy gear but a classy machine. Just been refinished so no decals, but check the pantos: ) Don't need decals, does it?
Simoncini is a very small builder but high quality and the Max tubing is still top grade steel.
[URL]
https://[IMG]https://i1212.photobucket....jpg[/IMG]Columbus Max tubing, (rotated elliptical) which is sculpture in steel IMHO: ) Pictured here with basic Campy gear but a classy machine. Just been refinished so no decals, but check the pantos: ) Don't need decals, does it?
Simoncini is a very small builder but high quality and the Max tubing is still top grade steel.
[URL]https://columbusmaxbikes.blogspot.com/
12-03-11, 01:11 PM
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That's mine on the Max site, but before I built it up: ) So many beautiful Max framed bikes on there. The Italian site author hadn't even seen a Simoncini before, let alone a Max framed one. And mines lugged not welded/fillet brazed: )
I came across this in a sorry state but just went for the rebuild and will never regret it. My first Italian machine turns out to be a classic, but since I'm 6' 1" it's way too small for me.....
Can't win 'em all: )
PS It also has the engraving on the seat stay bridge. I'll post some more detailed pics if there is interest here.
The precise link is here:
https://columbusmaxbikes.blogspot.com...abel/Simoncini
I came across this in a sorry state but just went for the rebuild and will never regret it. My first Italian machine turns out to be a classic, but since I'm 6' 1" it's way too small for me.....
Can't win 'em all: )
PS It also has the engraving on the seat stay bridge. I'll post some more detailed pics if there is interest here.
The precise link is here:
https://columbusmaxbikes.blogspot.com...abel/Simoncini
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04-29-14, 01:18 PM
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Check out my stable list....hard to pick a fav but someday I want a Pegoretti!
04-30-14, 07:32 AM
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04-30-14, 09:01 AM
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04-30-14, 12:36 PM
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Yes I ride Cervelo like my college girlfriend...she gets about 5000km a season, I am in Canada so that equates to 8-10mths of riding a year. We had a brutal winter this year, snow from Nov-April. Last year I rode all year long.
The Italian mistresses get ridden too, they are not just wall hangers, but they go out on nice days, never in the rain or early in the spring when the roads have salt residue on them. Usually i will do a longer ride on Cervelo (intervals, hill climbs etc) then do a cruise ride on my Italian steels for the fun of it. My Schwinn Typhoon is set up like a beach cruiser and I love riding that in flip flops to Starbucks or down to the grocery store. Every time I come back out to that bike there is always a crowd around it!
The Italian mistresses get ridden too, they are not just wall hangers, but they go out on nice days, never in the rain or early in the spring when the roads have salt residue on them. Usually i will do a longer ride on Cervelo (intervals, hill climbs etc) then do a cruise ride on my Italian steels for the fun of it. My Schwinn Typhoon is set up like a beach cruiser and I love riding that in flip flops to Starbucks or down to the grocery store. Every time I come back out to that bike there is always a crowd around it!
04-30-14, 08:22 PM
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As fall and winter approaches, I'm thinking of finally buying my vintage Italian dream machine. I'm just not quite sure which one I should look at. I'm leaning towards a Colnago or Bottechia, but there are many Italian brands out there.
So in your opinions, which are the top Italian bike manufacturers that I should look at. Maybe you can list your top 5 Italian bike makers and give a quick reason why they are the best and what I should look for.
Thanks!
So in your opinions, which are the top Italian bike manufacturers that I should look at. Maybe you can list your top 5 Italian bike makers and give a quick reason why they are the best and what I should look for.
Thanks!
I love that bike. I recently upgraded it to Campy Athena 11 speed and it is amazing how well it rides after all of these years.
I vote Bottecchia.
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04-30-14, 10:06 PM
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Colnago, Zullo, Pinarello, Tommaso. These are ones I currently own so I rate them all highly. I am going to throw Bianchi in there also because I have owned a half dozen of them in the last 3-4 years.
04-30-14, 11:02 PM
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It looks like a great bike to take for a spin to that location on what appears to be a glorious day.
05-01-14, 06:14 AM
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05-01-14, 06:50 AM
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At a certain level, I can't tell the difference; and I mean that the level of the frames vs. the level of my riding = not much difference, especially with different components. I've had Pinarello, Mondonico, Simoncini, and a Cinelli Supercorsa. I currently have a Cinelli Equipe, Basso, and a De Rosa just came in. I can tell by the feel of the frame that the De Rosa will be very nice. I also have a Merckx. All are SLX except the Equipe, which is SL. They all ride or rode great, and the Simoncini rode "lighter" than most. The Basso is the heaviest, and I'm not sure why.
05-01-14, 07:06 AM
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That looks like the "rock" along PCH. That used to be a pretty typical training ride. Santa Monica, Rock and back. Now I think I would start at about Pepperdine, PCH is too darn messed up farther South for me.
05-01-14, 08:14 AM
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You have a great eye! It is the Pt. Mugu Rock. I ride in the opposite direction from you. i go from my home in the Conejo Valley to Pt. Mugu, down PCH to Neptune's Net (or beyond if I have more time, or energy) then back home for my "personal" metric century. I agree with you 100%. PCH from Pepperdine to Santa Monica is just too crazy. I once almost got clipped by a guy on a Bentley backing out of his driveway just north of Duke's restaurant. The ride to Neptune's Net is relatively safer (except for the occasional falling rocks) and more scenic.