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Old 09-12-11 | 03:03 PM
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Another "name that frame game"

I thought it would be fun to post some pics of thisfreshly painted frame and see if anyone can guess what it is.

I'll start off with a shot of the whole thing.
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Old 09-12-11 | 03:04 PM
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I'll check back in a few hours and answer some questions and post a detail shot.
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Old 09-12-11 | 03:40 PM
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trek?
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Old 09-12-11 | 03:48 PM
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Old 09-12-11 | 03:51 PM
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Well, must be a Rivendell.
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Old 09-12-11 | 04:00 PM
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No idea, but nice shade of green.
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Old 09-12-11 | 08:22 PM
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Nice green for sure.
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Old 09-12-11 | 11:10 PM
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Thanks, I like the color too since I picked it

It's not a Rivendell, I doubt I could fit even 28mm tires on it.
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Old 09-13-11 | 12:18 AM
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The Riv. comment was a yoke.

OS Paramount? Some generic Eye-Tie racin' frame? You gotta give us either close-ups, a fork photo., or both. It looks pretty generic, so far.
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Old 09-13-11 | 01:42 AM
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Well, its at least late 70s with all the braze ons it has. It looks like the top tube might have internal cable routing.
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Yes, at least '78 and probably later given the 2 pair of WB bosses plus apparent internal cable in TT. Head lugs and BB shell look unusual and unfamiliar (scalloped). I can't be sure if the tubing is "normal": could be oversized or ovalized but very hard to guess anything with just this one crummy pic.
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Old 09-13-11 | 09:19 AM
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Old 09-13-11 | 12:34 PM
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Sorry I meant to post more pics earlier but the images are on my work computer.
Here's a closeup of the BB:


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Old 09-13-11 | 12:46 PM
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Old 09-13-11 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 753proguy
The Riv. comment was a yoke.

OS Paramount?

We have a winner!


its a Japanamount - Panasonic-built 1992 Paramount PDG series 5 OS frame. It had a really ugly paint job on it when I found it but for $50 how could I go wrong? I had it painted in a color reminiscent of a 70s Schwinn color. I'm going to line the lugs with white and use P-series decals on it.

Anybody got a Paramount headbadge?
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Impressive, 753proguy! That was just from the first pic.
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I'm impressed for sure... Was it the OS tubing?
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Old 09-13-11 | 09:29 PM
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I'm impressed for sure... Was it the OS tubing?
That was the first thing that stood out (OS top tube, not a 'skinny' one). Then, if you look at the overall features, it looks, I dunno, very OS Paramount-ish. Not sure why, maybe the dropouts plus the lugs and the pump nib made me think Waterford-ish, but that was my first thought, so like on standardized tests, I guess it's best to go with your first guess.

Are you sure you want white outlining on the lug shorelines? How about gold? Green-and-gold has a nice ring to it...??
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Old 09-13-11 | 09:32 PM
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Would you be able to tell by measuring to see if the TT is 1" and DT is 1-1/8" or if it's larger or no? I've had two Panamounts this year that both had OS tubing. One was a PDG3 that I picked up to flip and the other I kept for awhile and then sold to fund my Colnago build. The Series PDG(no number model) that I kept for awhile was nice and had the red/white/blue color scheme but had killer toe overlap since it was a 49cm frame. The lugs have a slight Nervex look to them I always thought. I'd take another one if it came my way again.
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Old 09-13-11 | 11:25 PM
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Yeah I like the lugs too - I've been looking for an 80s Japanese steel frame for a while and when I saw the lugs on this one i was sold. It was in way rough condition, I had to sandblast some rust-pitted spots on the top tube, and fill them and a bunch of small dents with silver braze. If I had to pay full price for the paint job I would never have wasted time on it but i got a 'bro deal'.

I might do gold lining - the reason I thought white was because the decal set I want to use is white. But I suppose i could have those done in gold too.

I just called Waterford to see if they have the 'disneyland' style decals.
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Henry are you asking me to measure them? I can if you need.
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