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chi-james 09-22-11 04:17 PM

smaller bikes... say <= 54cm... appear to have gigantic saddles...

jimmuller 09-22-11 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by chi-james (Post 13264720)
smaller bikes... say <= 54cm... appear to have gigantic saddles...

Honey, does this bike make my... no, we won't go there.

gcottay 09-22-11 04:44 PM

Small frames look great with small riders. Large frames look great with large riders. Small goes for medium rides and riders.

Drummerboy1975 09-22-11 04:53 PM

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I rest my case.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=219725

Maddox 09-22-11 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Roger M (Post 13264187)
This thread is kind of pointless.

Big folks ride big bikes(and generally think they look better)

Small folks ride small bikes( and think the opposite)

A longer head tube looks better than the bottom and top lugs mashed together though(with the exception of the Terry bikes, IMO)

Agreed.


Originally Posted by Drummerboy1975 (Post 13264601)
If it's pointless then why do you have an opinion? Not too pointless I guess.

No, it's definitely pointless. He's right that big folks ride big bike (and tend to think they look better). Smaller folks like smaller bikes and are drawn to the way they look.

In the days of yore, smallish boys and grown men would ride bikes with huge 28" wheels and tall seat tubes. Nowadays the Tour De France and other races have grown men buying bikes 5 or more cm too small for them, just to look more 'aero.' But aesthetics doesn't matter - fit does. It doesn't matter what you *think* looks good. What matters is the way it suits you and whether it rides well.


Originally Posted by WNG (Post 13264625)
This thread is like the moments when your wife asks you whether this handbag or shoes goes with that dress....or if it makes her look fat.
;)

Yep, but I don't think a 5'11" woman should ever buy a dress made for a petite lady just because she thinks it looks better on the rack than the one in her size. This question is nonsense.

Baroudeur 09-22-11 05:34 PM

I love the look of 58cm frames... but that might be because I ride 58cm. It's more fun to look at a bike when the possibility of riding it is real!

Drummerboy1975 09-22-11 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Maddox (Post 13264870)
Agreed.



No, it's definitely pointless. He's right that big folks ride big bike (and tend to think they look better). Smaller folks like smaller bikes and are drawn to the way they look.

In the days of yore, smallish boys and grown men would ride bikes with huge 28" wheels and tall seat tubes. Nowadays the Tour De France and other races have grown men buying bikes 5 or more cm too small for them, just to look more 'aero.' But aesthetics doesn't matter - fit does. It doesn't matter what you *think* looks good. What matters is the way it suits you and whether it rides well.



Yep, but I don't think a 5'11" woman should ever buy a dress made for a petite lady just because she thinks it looks better on the rack than the one in her size. This question is nonsense.


Thank you for sharing.

tugrul 09-22-11 05:46 PM

+1 LeicaLad, elegance is somewhere in the middle.


Originally Posted by Drummerboy1975 (Post 13264823)
I rest my case.

http://i.imgur.com/ZZQar.jpg

norskagent 09-22-11 05:49 PM

somebody should chart human height range against most popular frame size to show what we already know. I ride 54cm, I think 56-58cm looks "most balanced", most proportional.

frenchbikefan 09-22-11 06:12 PM

I ride a 51 cm, I think small bikes look strange and out of proportion. If I could I would ride much bigger bikes

mkeller234 09-22-11 06:29 PM

Sure, I agree that the middle of the spectrum usually look best. Even so i've got 4 bikes that are all 61cm and some of them look more elegant than others... something between the size and geometry can either make magic or an ugly duckling. I'm 6 foot tall and anything but graceful... don't know why... just cause.

Fletch521 09-22-11 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 13264757)
Honey, does this bike make my... no, we won't go there.

It's been my experience that if she actually rides it, it makes her... look pretty dam good.

jptwins 09-22-11 06:58 PM

i'm not gonna go commenting on short people with small bikes (logic dictates this, right?), but my eyes glance over anything smaller than a 61cm. 20grit's above is a beauty of proportionality.

My bikes on the other hand are just freakin huge:
27" Raleigh Marathon
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6157/...e3ef24ba1f.jpg

But I think this 65cm Nobilette looks pretty good, even if it still is super tall:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6085/...768d79db99.jpg


But they fit me like a charm, so no complaints. My saddle comes up to a coworker's sternum. crazy.

Italuminium 09-22-11 07:23 PM

The sweet spot seems to be between 56-58 cm frames. Smaller than that, the saddle looks too big, or the group too large.

khatfull 09-22-11 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 13264225)
I think a 59cm seat tube frame is about the most balanced and pleasing to the eye for me.

Only two things scare me and one of them is nuclear war. What's the other? Tiny frames. Smell like cabbage. Small hands.

Funny, I was getting ready to reply that 57-61cm generally does it for me from an aesthetic standpoint. :)

Otis 09-22-11 07:39 PM

There's a reason a lot catalog photos and bikes for shows in the day were 56cm. That is the perfect proportion for a race bike. But of course, we ride what fits and IMO any bike between 52-62cm can look good with the proper set-up. Frames out of that range look freakish :)

ThermionicScott 09-23-11 12:29 AM

I don't have much to add to this thread, but it does make sense that some companies switch to 26" tires below a certain frame size -- so they don't have to modify the geometry too much to accomodate 700C tires. It's too bad 28" (635mm rim) tires have fallen out of favor. Someone should work on re-popularizing them so the tall folks don't have to ride such goofy-looking bikes. :)

rhm 09-23-11 06:47 AM

I'll put my vote in for 58 cm, which is a little smaller than my ideal size, assuming standard sized wheels (tubular/700c/27").

Smaller riders really should ride bikes with smaller wheels (note the plural, Georgena!). Here's my 1948 RRA and my wife's 1998 Bianchi Eros.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6167/...b31ba9b1_b.jpg

shrinkboy 09-23-11 07:22 AM

61cm Grandis

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...kboy/004-1.jpg

bradtx 09-23-11 07:46 AM

DrummerBoy1975, Because of the larger diameter tubing my Cannondales tend to look smaller than they are in photos. In the bike club there are some really large and really small cyclists, their bikes are definately out of the norm, but once the rider is riding, it all looks graceful.

Just for aesthetics I think a compact crankset looks better on a small frame (48-50 cm).

Brad

Drummerboy1975 09-23-11 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by bradtx (Post 13266984)
DrummerBoy1975, Because of the larger diameter tubing my Cannondales tend to look smaller than they are in photos. In the bike club there are some really large and really small cyclists, their bikes are definately out of the norm, but once the rider is riding, it all looks graceful.

Just for aesthetics I think a compact crankset looks better on a small frame (48-50 cm).

Brad

Yes Brad, I agreee, Cannondales are an exception.

jan nikolajsen 09-23-11 08:08 AM

Yes, big frames can look awkward. I ride 61-65, and sometimes have a hard time taking good looking pics of my bikes.


But there's details that can make these huge contraptions easier on the eye:

Definitely 700 wheels. None of my 650b conversions scored any aesthetic points!

Fenders. Makes the wheel diameter appear larger.

For photos jam the stem down the steerer racing style. Easy to do.

Big chainring needs to be truly big (53T+)

Old fashioned race bars, with sweet curves and big drop. Once took a profile shot of my 65cm Trek with tight rando bars. Ugh!

Kobe 09-23-11 08:20 AM

Aah, that's why I always like the pictures of your bikes and hate the way my 65cm+ bike pictures come out. I always take pictures of the way I ride em, I may need to do some staging next time.

20grit 09-23-11 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen (Post 13267084)
Old fashioned race bars, with sweet curves and big drop. Once took a profile shot of my 65cm Trek with tight rando bars. Ugh!

I think the drop on my bars definitely helps. If I had gotten the standard drop It would've looked awkward. That said, that particular bike is the first one I've set up for riding hoods. I don't know that I really needed the deeper drops other than for aesthetic reasons.

bobbycorno 09-23-11 09:34 AM

Seems to me pretty much everybody likes the looks of their size bike. So what?

SP
Bend, OR
...64cm looks real nice to me.


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