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PeregrineA1 10-08-11 05:39 PM

Another Eisentraut
 
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Visiting So Cal for the weekend and I did my usual scan of CL and found an Eisentraut in my size, so of course I had to go see....

It's pretty rough as the photos show. Mismatched wheel, scratches, etc. But is mine for a very fair price.

Do you all think the drive train is as delivered? Were these built up by the shops that sold them? Shimano Crane, Suntour, Campy headset. I don't recognize the crank or front wheel-which is allegedly original and came with a matching rear to replace the 27" steely.

Same color as my other one, so I won't be confused when I come to CA and ride with my GF.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=222049http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=222050http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=222051http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=222052http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=222053

unworthy1 10-08-11 05:45 PM

wow, a Weyless front hub with skewer...and a dork disc on the rear. That's from ridiculous to sublime. I think the crank is a Mighty Tour, or something like that. Brilliant bike, lose the dork disc quick or it might start feeling angry and attack. ;)

Poguemahone 10-08-11 05:48 PM

Love that QR.

Eisentrauts are a definite buy. Nice find!

Bianchigirll 10-08-11 05:59 PM

too bad the original rear wheel is missing.

John E 10-08-11 06:32 PM

Eisentraut frames are great. Get yourself a decent rear wheel and perhaps a better rear derailleur, and you are in business.

Charles Wahl 10-08-11 06:49 PM

I have a pair of Weyless hubs, lacking one skewer, though; and I don't have any idea how to replace the cartridge bearings, at least one of which sounds dry -- there's a large, almost invisible C-clip involved, but I haven't a clue about how one might remove the axle, preload the bearings, etc. If you want a rear hub to match your front, I might be willing to trade for something juicy (and not a fruit, nor other carnal favors).

We deserve more and better photos -- if you're just going to tease, that's not very nice.

unterhausen 10-08-11 06:53 PM

I would consider tossing a lot of those parts, it clearly has seen some low-rent repairs over the years. I am guessing the frame is immaculately constructed and worth a decent set of parts.

PeregrineA1 10-08-11 06:54 PM

Bike came with the original rear wheel. It will be replacing the one on there tomorrow for sure.

Click on the pics to enlarge for now. More when I clean it up a bit.

Paint is very rough. This will be a test for Scratch-X for sure. Lot's of chips too. Not sure about touch-up or treat and seal.

unworthy1 10-09-11 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by Charles Wahl (Post 13337795)
I have a pair of Weyless hubs, lacking one skewer, though; and I don't have any idea how to replace the cartridge bearings, at least one of which sounds dry -- there's a large, almost invisible C-clip involved, but I haven't a clue about how one might remove the axle, preload the bearings, etc. If you want a rear hub to match your front, I might be willing to trade for something juicy (and not a fruit, nor other carnal favors).

We deserve more and better photos -- if you're just going to tease, that's not very nice.

To hijack this thread just a bit: I had some early Weyless hubs with cartridge bearings and the bearings did have a very thin C-clip that held the seals in place. I left the bearings installed and managed to pry out the C-clips, remove the seals (which were not the usual rubber-coated spring steel seen on modern cart bearings, these were a phenolic fiber!) then just flush and dry and re-grease. It took care and some very thin blades to get those C-clips out, but once lubed, the bearings are smooth as silk.
And +1: more pix!

gaucho777 10-09-11 12:50 AM

If I remember correctly, you picked up a Wizard recently...and now the Eisentraut. A very nice collection of American classics you are developing. :thumb:

PeregrineA1 10-09-11 05:36 PM

More Info and Pics
 
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Pics are here https://picasaweb.google.com/1017012...isentraut59Cm#

Cleaned it up today-soap and water only-and changed back to the "original" rear wheel. No more dork disc! All little Goof-Off and the paint scrapes are gone. Looking better and now I see what the future holds.

I think I will retain most of the current parts list initially. My guess is that it was originally built with Campagnolo and this configuration came a couple of years after purchase to ease climbing the steep stuff. The serial number dates the frame to 1975.

RD-Shimano Crane DB110 2nd Style ~1977
FD-Suntour Cyclone ~1975
Crank-Sugino Mighty Tour
Hubs-Weyless Quick release
Rims-Araya 27" clincher
Brakes-Dia Compe Gran Compe
Stem-SR Soul
Bars-Sakai World Champion
Seat Post-Campagnolo 26.8 mm
Cable Clamps-Campagnolo and Shimano
Shifters-Suntour
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=222169

Charles Wahl 10-09-11 06:43 PM

"Sorry, that page wasn't found"

From the looks of that chainring combination, that guy only went uphill or downhill, nothing in between.

retyred 10-09-11 09:35 PM

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Did you buy your Eisentraut from Corey at Orange County Bicycle Garage? I was looking at it when he brought it into his shop. I was thinking about adding it to my collection but I became more interested in the 1970 Mondia. Lucky you!
Here are some pics of the OCBG showing your Eisentraut and some of my vintage bikes awaiting service.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=222237 Three of my bikes: 1967 Legnano, 1979 Raleigh Competition and 1972 Mondia. I have my bid in on the 1970 orange Mondia.

Attachment 222236 Your Eisentraut awaiting you!


Attachment 222235 A shot of the shop. That's my favorite stool. :D

PeregrineA1 10-09-11 10:37 PM

You got it. Good spot.

Re: The Wizard. I am targeting California builders, somewhat by accident initilly.

Wulf 10-10-11 01:49 AM

Is that the Limited model?

bibliobob 10-10-11 06:29 AM

Swoon. Wizard. Eisentraut. Weyless.

I need to move to Orange County.....


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