A Rossin Question
10-09-11 | 08:50 PM
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Like yourself, I've never seen this kind of bottom bracket on any other brand bike - and I think that bottom bracket dates the bike to the mid/late 80's
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10-09-11 | 08:59 PM
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I'll have to check my "new to me" Rossin and see what it has. I do think I have seen them on other nicer Italian frames. I guess the idea is to stiffen the stays without a bridge and thus make them shorter?
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10-09-11 | 11:35 PM
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The answer to the question is NO. Somec i believe had a BB shell that is similar. That beefy BB shell came only in that model I believe. Nice bike been looking for one of those for a while now. Or de wrong size or I dont have money for it hahaha 
10-10-11 | 12:33 AM
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10-10-11 | 08:43 AM
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what is with the teasing? I never saw, not that I saw alot of Ghiblis, a fully chromed one.
my '88 RL with SL tubes has a standard looking BB shell except the cables are routed through it, so it is built up just a bit on the bottom.
Ultraman just what size are you looking for?
OH UH
WOW this is dreamy! 
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10-10-11 | 10:46 AM
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Rossin used this BB shell into the early 90's:
Rossin Prestige
A Rossin lug set:
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...n/RosslugL.jpg
Rossin Prestige
A Rossin lug set:
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...n/RosslugL.jpg
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10-10-11 | 10:58 AM
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Dammit. I never saw a Rossin in the flesh, now I think I NEED one. Thanks.. Thanks alot... More of that sexy Italian steel.. With my initials on it.. Sheeshh..
Tell me, do you have rust problems from other people drooling over the bike?
Tell me, do you have rust problems from other people drooling over the bike?
10-10-11 | 11:08 AM
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Here is mine just to torment you a bit more LOL
but as you can see the lowly SL tubed frame uses a more common arangement
but as you can see the lowly SL tubed frame uses a more common arangement
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10-10-11 | 11:38 AM
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10-10-11 | 12:38 PM
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The "chunkeh" BB shell must add a bit of weight to the frame, does it?
Vitus did something similar to ther later 992 frames but they did it in a smoother, "sexier", more rounded shape, as you might expect from French designers.
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Vitus did something similar to ther later 992 frames but they did it in a smoother, "sexier", more rounded shape, as you might expect from French designers.
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10-10-11 | 02:46 PM
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Dont really notice much weight increase over my other slx frame bikes. It does ride great...not sure if that has anything to do with that bb or not. I think that ghibli may be just the bare frame. Werent they chromed underneath? I want a Ghibli. I want a Ghibli
10-10-11 | 02:49 PM
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Hey bianchigirl....do you have the original fork for you Rossin? I have a friend who does have a nice steal Rossin fork. It might work for you.
10-10-11 | 09:03 PM
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Ride one sometime when you get the chance. Then you'll KNOW that you need one.
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10-10-11 | 10:11 PM
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Well the reason is that too much work for them to build like that. IMO italian bikes are good, italian frame building is rough compared with other builders. The only reason i say that is because the idea for italian manufacturing was just get the bike ready to b sold asap, so basically no lug work, quick and good paint job and ready to go.
IMO now a days the best "custom building" is made here in the US.
IMO now a days the best "custom building" is made here in the US.
10-10-11 | 10:25 PM
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that is just to hold the padding in place to keep the heater from scratching it. or getting grease on the carpet
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10-11-11 | 04:49 AM
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Yeah, that BB shell looks stylish in a paperweight sense, but creates a "plug-and-play" lack of flow to the frame overall - or at least to the BB-stay junction. It does say "this junction won't fail," which I'm sure was reassuring to some riders.
10-11-11 | 05:00 AM
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On the other hand, another way to stand out from the crowd was to do something dramatic design-wise - Colnago led the way in many respects in this regard with its shaped tubing. I give Rossin credit here, as they managed to create frames that are aesthetically dramatic in ways that sometimes allow them to stand out from the crowd.
10-11-11 | 05:26 AM
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Well the reason is that too much work for them to build like that. IMO italian bikes are good, italian frame building is rough compared with other builders. The only reason i say that is because the idea for italian manufacturing was just get the bike ready to b sold asap, so basically no lug work, quick and good paint job and ready to go.
IMO now a days the best "custom building" is made here in the US.
IMO now a days the best "custom building" is made here in the US.
But we have to be careful with generalizations.
Have you looked at Marnatis?
How about Baum cycles?
How about Llewellyn?
"Best" is a tough statement, while "among the best" would work a little better for me.