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Yet Another Hercules Thread :)
On Friday evening forum member ecnewell posted a link in the eBay/Craigslist thread about a Hercules in Philly that was up for sale. Upon seeing it and realizing that this was the week that both my wife and I get paid(!), I sent a message to the owner of the bike. Within about 15 minutes, he called me and the rest is history. Despite the inclement weather in the area, I made the trip without incident and am happy to have a new addition to the collection.
About the bike: This Hercules Lion is a Pre-Raleigh bike and appears to be entirely original with the exception of the the Shimano shifter and the inner tubes. The bike has Dunlop tires on it with virtually no wear or dry-rotting on them. The cables are those strange one-piece things that have the ends soldered on or whatever it was they did way back then to make them one piece. There is no rust to be found anywhere on the bike, not on the frame, nor the wheels, nor the handlebar or any other part of the bike. The only flaw that I can see is that the paint has some fading and is flaking on various parts of the bike. It seems to be worse on one side than the other, so I'm guessing it may have been sitting in a spot where it was exposed to the sun on one side. So without any further ado, I present to the C&V crowd my new Hercules Lion.
Drive side.

Hercules Lion - 2 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Cream coloured panel on rear mudguard.

Hercules Lion - 4 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Headbadge.

Hercules Lion - 5 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Front mudguard tip. Notice the cream colour on the leading edge of the fender. I don't think that was a common practice on most English bikes, at least not that I'm aware of.

Hercules Lion - 6 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Chainguard.

Hercules Lion - 9 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Right side seat cluster. Note the peeling paint in places. The pinstriping is intact and nearly perfect on the entire bike.

Hercules Lion - 10 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Right side headtube. The zip tie is a nice touch.

Hercules Lion - 11 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Cockpit view. See how pretty the mudguard looks with the leading edge painted in the cream colour?

Hercules Lion - 18 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Yup, it still has a Hercules hub and it works perfectly. I did a ride of 3 or so miles today on it to confirm my suspicions.

Hercules Lion - 34 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
About the bike: This Hercules Lion is a Pre-Raleigh bike and appears to be entirely original with the exception of the the Shimano shifter and the inner tubes. The bike has Dunlop tires on it with virtually no wear or dry-rotting on them. The cables are those strange one-piece things that have the ends soldered on or whatever it was they did way back then to make them one piece. There is no rust to be found anywhere on the bike, not on the frame, nor the wheels, nor the handlebar or any other part of the bike. The only flaw that I can see is that the paint has some fading and is flaking on various parts of the bike. It seems to be worse on one side than the other, so I'm guessing it may have been sitting in a spot where it was exposed to the sun on one side. So without any further ado, I present to the C&V crowd my new Hercules Lion.
Drive side.

Hercules Lion - 2 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Cream coloured panel on rear mudguard.

Hercules Lion - 4 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Headbadge.

Hercules Lion - 5 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Front mudguard tip. Notice the cream colour on the leading edge of the fender. I don't think that was a common practice on most English bikes, at least not that I'm aware of.

Hercules Lion - 6 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Chainguard.

Hercules Lion - 9 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Right side seat cluster. Note the peeling paint in places. The pinstriping is intact and nearly perfect on the entire bike.

Hercules Lion - 10 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Right side headtube. The zip tie is a nice touch.


Hercules Lion - 11 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Cockpit view. See how pretty the mudguard looks with the leading edge painted in the cream colour?

Hercules Lion - 18 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Yup, it still has a Hercules hub and it works perfectly. I did a ride of 3 or so miles today on it to confirm my suspicions.

Hercules Lion - 34 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
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That is a very cool bike, but a bike that clean isn't normal. You don't happen to own a time machine?
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Thanks David. I agree that it is unusual to find one this clean and I wish that I knew the history. If I had a time machine I can only imagine some of the bikes that'd be in my collection. I just knew that it differed considerably from most all of the other Hercules I'd seen. Of course, there are simply not that many around here these days, so I don't have a lot to compare it to. I wish there was more information about these so I could get a better fix on the age of the machine.
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Beautiful 3 speed, I'm looking for one as well. How does the 21" fits you ? I'm 6' tall with a 33" inseam, I'm considering a 21" since it's much harder to find a 23". Congrats!
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In any case, the bike is super nice notwithstanding the paint issue. I'm trying to place the year, but am clueless with the exception of knowing it is a Birmingham bike and preceded the TI merger with Raleigh.
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I like the headbadge, the entire bike is very cool!
Scratchex maybe too strong for the finish on the Herc. My (in)experience has shown the red used on the Hercs. is VERY fragil and thin....be careful!
Scratchex maybe too strong for the finish on the Herc. My (in)experience has shown the red used on the Hercs. is VERY fragil and thin....be careful!
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Congrats on scoring the Herc-u-matic shifter!
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I love old three-speeds, but when you said "Philadelphia" I did some mental math and thought something like 'what kind of a nut drives seven hours to pick up a Hercules?'
But then I looked at the pictures. Oh, I understand now. That's quite a find! Probably the nicest one I've seen. Fabulous color scheme. I'm not sure about repairing the paint, unless you can match it really well. Is it tough enough for wax?
But then I looked at the pictures. Oh, I understand now. That's quite a find! Probably the nicest one I've seen. Fabulous color scheme. I'm not sure about repairing the paint, unless you can match it really well. Is it tough enough for wax?
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What type of oilers are on the hubs and BB?
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I love old three-speeds, but when you said "Philadelphia" I did some mental math and thought something like 'what kind of a nut drives seven hours to pick up a Hercules?'
But then I looked at the pictures. Oh, I understand now. That's quite a find! Probably the nicest one I've seen. Fabulous color scheme. I'm not sure about repairing the paint, unless you can match it really well. Is it tough enough for wax?
But then I looked at the pictures. Oh, I understand now. That's quite a find! Probably the nicest one I've seen. Fabulous color scheme. I'm not sure about repairing the paint, unless you can match it really well. Is it tough enough for wax?

As far as being a find: yep, that it is! The red and cream colour combination really makes this bike special, to say the least. Almost all the English bikes have the white painted section on the rear fenders, but I don't ever recall them being cream coloured and I don't recall seeing the leading edge of the tip painted like this either. Of course, that doesn't mean there aren't examples existing in the wild similar to this, just that I haven't seen them.
BTW, do you know where I can get some appropriate hand grips for this thing? They aren't white, but are a cream colour similar to the painted tips and the seat. As you can see in the picture below, the grips are pretty well shot.

Hercules Lion - 29 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
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They appear to be brass with a teensy hinge on one side. Pics below...

Hercules A Type Oiler by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr

Front Hub Oiler by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr

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Yes, I know and believe me, I now have your number in case I *really* need it. Besides, knowing how fond you are of old English 3-speeds, I was concerned you might want to keep it! 
In reality though, since my wife wanted to go visit her mother and I didn't, this gave me a great excuse. Besides, the Philly Bike Expo was going on, so I stopped in there a couple hours since it was only a little over a mile away from where I retrieved the bike.

In reality though, since my wife wanted to go visit her mother and I didn't, this gave me a great excuse. Besides, the Philly Bike Expo was going on, so I stopped in there a couple hours since it was only a little over a mile away from where I retrieved the bike.
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Yes, I know and believe me, I now have your number in case I *really* need it. Besides, knowing how fond you are of old English 3-speeds, I was concerned you might want to keep it! 
In reality though, since my wife wanted to go visit her mother and I didn't, this gave me a great excuse. Besides, the Philly Bike Expo was going on, so I stopped in there a couple hours since it was only a little over a mile away from where I retrieved the bike.

In reality though, since my wife wanted to go visit her mother and I didn't, this gave me a great excuse. Besides, the Philly Bike Expo was going on, so I stopped in there a couple hours since it was only a little over a mile away from where I retrieved the bike.
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OP, again I'm glad you got it. I thought about grabbing it myself after some research showed it was surely worth the asking price, but I wouldn't have appreciated it nearly as much as you do.
Would leather grips be appropriate? I'm thinking the end grain leather on these Brooks honey grips might match the cream color closely enough so as not to be noticeable. These can be found at https://www.brooksengland.com/catalog...Leather+Grips/
Would leather grips be appropriate? I'm thinking the end grain leather on these Brooks honey grips might match the cream color closely enough so as not to be noticeable. These can be found at https://www.brooksengland.com/catalog...Leather+Grips/

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OP, again I'm glad you got it. I thought about grabbing it myself after some research showed it was surely worth the asking price, but I wouldn't have appreciated it nearly as much as you do.
Would leather grips be appropriate? I'm thinking the end grain leather on these Brooks honey grips might match the cream color closely enough so as not to be noticeable. These can be found at https://www.brooksengland.com/catalog...Leather+Grips/
Would leather grips be appropriate? I'm thinking the end grain leather on these Brooks honey grips might match the cream color closely enough so as not to be noticeable. These can be found at https://www.brooksengland.com/catalog...Leather+Grips/
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I realize the grips are shot, but I don't think I'd change them. They will get worse, and then they'll get even worse, which is too bad; but nothing else will look as good. Until they finally disintegrate entirely, that is.
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EDIT: A gentleman on Flickr informed me that the hub on the bike is a 1951 (the 1 on the hub is indicative of the year), so I believe this bike is a 1951 assuming the hub and bike were made the same year. I think that she's in great shape for a 60-year-old lady.

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