Anyone want to comment on damage?
#1
Anyone want to comment on damage?
I just got this in the mail. Needless to say Im upset. The box is fine and judging by the rust this is existing damage.
Am I correct in thinking that this was existing damage?

Am I correct in thinking that this was existing damage?

#2
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Youch. Yeah, I'm guessing that isn't exactly new.
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If the box is fine... very unlikely damage was done in shipping. Looks like old damage to me. Where did you buy the frame? Was it insured? If its ebay or paypal file a dispute and you'll get you money back.
#6
Is that just a scrape or is it a dent / bend?? From only that one photo, that looks pretty serious.
edit: ah, I see the bend now. Yeah, no way that happened in shipping.
Was this via ebay?
edit: ah, I see the bend now. Yeah, no way that happened in shipping.
Was this via ebay?
Last edited by lostarchitect; 11-01-11 at 02:32 PM.
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The shape of the fold on the top tube points towards a head-on crash. Did you get the fork too? If so, is it straight (and original).
I'm +1 on old damage obviously.
I'm +1 on old damage obviously.
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Textbook bent headtube.
Might be able to get some satisfaction from someone with a Park HT-1 ... a couple of forum members have those things.
Honestly though I'd just return to sender if it were me.
Might be able to get some satisfaction from someone with a Park HT-1 ... a couple of forum members have those things.
Honestly though I'd just return to sender if it were me.
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Damage is old given the patina on the metal surface. It's also probably not terribly old given the paint surrounding it is in decent shape and the patina is fairly light. Looks like the seller crashed the bike, removed the parts and sold it immediately.
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#21
I agree with everyone, that damage was there already! I live in Florida, but that is not my frame! :-) My frames are professionally packaged by me, as I have seen the less than perfect job done at the lbs. Hopefully you'll be able to resolve this favorably!
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... You should be able to get your $ back no problem since it was misrepresented.