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Italuminium 11-10-11 08:43 AM

connoisseurs
 
I went to the LBS last week to have the indicator chain fixed on my Moulton. The LBS owner pulled out his wallet and asked: how much? Needless to say I declined his offer and had it (expertly) fixed. I'm a happy biker on my canary yellow winter machine.

ColonelJLloyd 11-10-11 08:44 AM

Spell check, sir. And post pics!

KonAaron Snake 11-10-11 09:14 AM

You, sir, are a man of taste...

Now get us photos asI love yellow bikes. I don't have a yellow bike :(

ColonelJLloyd 11-10-11 09:25 AM

My first yellow bike is at the powder coater right now. RAL 1003 "signal yellow".

rhm 11-10-11 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 13476561)
You, sir, are a man of taste...

You bet he is! And I'm sure paying a Euro or two to keep the IGH on an old English bike going for another few decades is just the tip of the iceberg.

BluesDaddy 11-10-11 09:28 AM

For pics, click the link at the bottom of his post.

Italuminium, can you easily find 4-speed trigger shifters over there? I'm looking for one for my Superbe.

ColonelJLloyd 11-10-11 09:37 AM

Ah, there we go. Nice!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6123/...9c16b103_b.jpg

KonAaron Snake 11-10-11 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13476628)
You bet he is! And I'm sure paying a Euro or two to keep the IGH on an old English bike going for another few decades is just the tip of the iceberg.

If Suntour made an IGH, you'd be insufferable :)

rhm 11-10-11 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by BluesDaddy (Post 13476638)
For pics, click the link at the bottom of his post.

Italuminium, can you easily find 4-speed trigger shifters over there? I'm looking for one for my Superbe.

There's an ebay seller in Canada, with a name like Velomacaque or something like that, who's selling them for less than $25 shipping included. He lists them as "3 speed" so you have to look at the photo. If the face of the trigger says "3 or 4 speed" you're good to go.

rhm 11-10-11 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 13476686)
If Suntour made an IGH, you'd be insufferable :)

They did, actually! It was a Sturmey Archer clone, and (as you can imagine) has a certain prestige. I don't have one, but would love to pick one up sometime.

Insufferable? Yeah, probably. But I'm worst when compulsively needling you about IGH's.

KonAaron Snake 11-10-11 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13476710)
They did, actually! It was a Sturmey Archer clone, and (as you can imagine) has a certain prestige. I don't have one, but would love to pick one up sometime.

Insufferable? Yeah, probably. But I'm worst when compulsively needling you about IGH's.

:lol:

If Campagnolo made one, you'd really stick me with it! What period were the Suntour IGH's? Were they as good/better than SA? I'll be on the lookout for you.

Italuminium 11-10-11 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by BluesDaddy (Post 13476638)
For pics, click the link at the bottom of his post.

Italuminium, can you easily find 4-speed trigger shifters over there? I'm looking for one for my Superbe.

No! The LBS, who has a warehouse full of stuff, says that the 4 speed parts are rare as hen's teeth here. The 3 speed parts however are another story: most Gazelle's, Unions and Batavi came with AW hubs for a large part of the past century. You can literally take them on the side of the road, of abandoned beater bikes.

thanks for all the compliments btw!

And a campagnolo IGH would be awesome. Luckily Rohloff stepped in the gap of a high precision, high dollar and high gear range hub (especially in the phil wood casing) - unfortunately my finances won't allow one until I get my first steady job.

balindamood 11-10-11 09:57 AM


Now get us photos asI love yellow bikes. I don't have a yellow bike
I covet a Richard Sachs; and all you want is a Yellow Bike???

Will you take a cow for these magic beans??:innocent:

rhm 11-10-11 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 13476725)
:lol:

If Campagnolo made one, you'd really stick me with it! What period were the Suntour IGH's? Were they as good/better than SA? I'll be on the lookout for you.

Oh, thanks, that would be swell!

I imagine you'd find Suntour hubs on certain Japanese import three speeds from the 70's and perhaps 80's. I don't know if they were licensed or just ripoffs. Apparently Shimano went to considerable lengths to avoid Sturmey Archer patents, so perhaps Suntour adopted the opposite tack and just paid the licensing fee. At any rate, it was a period when Sturmey Archer's quality control is reputed to have been pretty low, and Suntour's reputation for quality control is pretty high.

I just think it would be cool to get a high end Japanese frame and build an all-Japanese 'clubman' type bike. I know that wouldn't be to your taste, but it would appeal to mine.

Now, if Campagnolo had made one, we could do the same with an Italian frame. That would be cool! Oops, there I go again. Pardon me, I will stop needling you for a while now, on account of your kind offer.

Italuminium 11-10-11 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13476799)
Oh, thanks, that would be swell!

I imagine you'd find Suntour hubs on certain Japanese import three speeds from the 70's and perhaps 80's. I don't know if they were licensed or just ripoffs. Apparently Shimano went to considerable lengths to avoid Sturmey Archer patents, so perhaps Suntour adopted the opposite tack and just paid the licensing fee. At any rate, it was a period when Sturmey Archer's quality control is reputed to have been pretty low, and Suntour's reputation for quality control is pretty high.

I just think it would be cool to get a high end Japanese frame and build an all-Japanese 'clubman' type bike. I know that wouldn't be to your taste, but it would appeal to mine.

Now, if Campagnolo had made one, we could do the same with an Italian frame. That would be cool! Oops, there I go again. Pardon me, I will stop needling you for a while now, on account of your kind offer.

how about a Clubmann? A Rabeneick with a torpedo hub :)

BluesDaddy 11-10-11 01:26 PM

Thanks Ital and Rudi! The search continues...

Italuminium 06-18-12 07:15 AM

Update: this same LBS proved their worth again. I brought in an ALAN frame for a headset job. The mechanic gets misty eyed and grins a little. "Time for the nice tools", he says, while he slides out a complete set of the hallowed Campagnolo tools, still in the original wooden box. "Free of charge. Come show us the end result - I just finished an ALAN restoration myself with my dad, great bikes!".

KonAaron Snake 06-18-12 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Italuminium (Post 14370825)
Update: this same LBS proved their worth again. I brought in an ALAN frame for a headset job. The mechanic gets misty eyed and grins a little. "Time for the nice tools", he says, while he slides out a complete set of the hallowed Campagnolo tools, still in the original wooden box. "Free of charge. Come show us the end result - I just finished an ALAN restoration myself with my dad, great bikes!".

This was a fun thread to re-read, especially sine I did get my yellow bike!

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...7/IMG_0843.jpg

Italuminium 06-18-12 07:37 AM

ha, no new acquisitions for me in that caliber since, and the Moulton was stolen :(.

MikeTé 06-18-12 07:39 AM

Spell check?
 

Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 13476441)
Spell check, sir.

re: connaisseur, instead of connoisseur? If so, he spelled it correctly, as it was before the English ever heard the word.... :innocent:

Mike T.
Ottawa

"Le français: je le parle par coeur"

KonAaron Snake 06-18-12 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Italuminium (Post 14370904)
ha, no new acquisitions for me in that caliber since, and the Moulton was stolen :(.

DUDE...I am so sorry! That is a loss, and I hope you catch the motherless cretin.

gomango 06-18-12 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 14370891)
This was a fun thread to re-read, especially sine I did get my yellow bike!

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...7/IMG_0843.jpg

That is absolutely wicked.

Sorry to hear of a stolen bicycle as well, especially a Moulton.

Theft of a prized anything hurts.

ColonelJLloyd 06-18-12 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by MikeTé (Post 14370912)
re: connaisseur, instead of connoisseur? If so, he spelled it correctly, as it was before the English ever heard the word.... :innocent:

Mike T.
Ottawa

"Le français: je le parle par coeur"

I suppose, but it was a post in English about an English bike so I'll stand by my unnecessary correction. ;)

KonAaron Snake 06-18-12 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by gomango (Post 14370926)
That is absolutely wicked.

Sorry to hear of a stolen bicycle as well, especially a Moulton.

Theft of a prized anything hurts.

She's FAST as hell...it's the lightest bike I have and unquestionably the quickest. It's not my most comfortable and the cornering can be a bit aggressive for me...much of which is a function of the ridiculous tires. I've made some changes since this photo - it got that De Rosa panto stem plug, a king ti cage and a ti campy record post thanks to Robbie.

Something else I nearly forgot - Rhm - I ended up just missing out on one of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SUNT...item2ebf424c49

Which was what I wanted to give you for secret Santa.

Italuminium 06-18-12 08:31 AM

Well, it's just a bike and it wasn't much of a museum piece, repaint and all, and I didn't had it long enough to become really attached to it, nor did I work on it a lot, but it still sucks. A well, a nice new acquisition will undoubtly arise when all the smoke clears that currently has put any major new builds on hold.


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