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I went to the LBS last week to have the indicator chain fixed on my Moulton. The LBS owner pulled out his wallet and asked: how much? Needless to say I declined his offer and had it (expertly) fixed. I'm a happy biker on my canary yellow winter machine.
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You, sir, are a man of taste...
Now get us photos asI love yellow bikes. I don't have a yellow bike
Now get us photos asI love yellow bikes. I don't have a yellow bike
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Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...
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There's an ebay seller in Canada, with a name like Velomacaque or something like that, who's selling them for less than $25 shipping included. He lists them as "3 speed" so you have to look at the photo. If the face of the trigger says "3 or 4 speed" you're good to go.
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They did, actually! It was a Sturmey Archer clone, and (as you can imagine) has a certain prestige. I don't have one, but would love to pick one up sometime.
Insufferable? Yeah, probably. But I'm worst when compulsively needling you about IGH's.
Insufferable? Yeah, probably. But I'm worst when compulsively needling you about IGH's.
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If Campagnolo made one, you'd really stick me with it! What period were the Suntour IGH's? Were they as good/better than SA? I'll be on the lookout for you.
#12
thanks for all the compliments btw!
And a campagnolo IGH would be awesome. Luckily Rohloff stepped in the gap of a high precision, high dollar and high gear range hub (especially in the phil wood casing) - unfortunately my finances won't allow one until I get my first steady job.
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I imagine you'd find Suntour hubs on certain Japanese import three speeds from the 70's and perhaps 80's. I don't know if they were licensed or just ripoffs. Apparently Shimano went to considerable lengths to avoid Sturmey Archer patents, so perhaps Suntour adopted the opposite tack and just paid the licensing fee. At any rate, it was a period when Sturmey Archer's quality control is reputed to have been pretty low, and Suntour's reputation for quality control is pretty high.
I just think it would be cool to get a high end Japanese frame and build an all-Japanese 'clubman' type bike. I know that wouldn't be to your taste, but it would appeal to mine.
Now, if Campagnolo had made one, we could do the same with an Italian frame. That would be cool! Oops, there I go again. Pardon me, I will stop needling you for a while now, on account of your kind offer.
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Oh, thanks, that would be swell!
I imagine you'd find Suntour hubs on certain Japanese import three speeds from the 70's and perhaps 80's. I don't know if they were licensed or just ripoffs. Apparently Shimano went to considerable lengths to avoid Sturmey Archer patents, so perhaps Suntour adopted the opposite tack and just paid the licensing fee. At any rate, it was a period when Sturmey Archer's quality control is reputed to have been pretty low, and Suntour's reputation for quality control is pretty high.
I just think it would be cool to get a high end Japanese frame and build an all-Japanese 'clubman' type bike. I know that wouldn't be to your taste, but it would appeal to mine.
Now, if Campagnolo had made one, we could do the same with an Italian frame. That would be cool! Oops, there I go again. Pardon me, I will stop needling you for a while now, on account of your kind offer.
I imagine you'd find Suntour hubs on certain Japanese import three speeds from the 70's and perhaps 80's. I don't know if they were licensed or just ripoffs. Apparently Shimano went to considerable lengths to avoid Sturmey Archer patents, so perhaps Suntour adopted the opposite tack and just paid the licensing fee. At any rate, it was a period when Sturmey Archer's quality control is reputed to have been pretty low, and Suntour's reputation for quality control is pretty high.
I just think it would be cool to get a high end Japanese frame and build an all-Japanese 'clubman' type bike. I know that wouldn't be to your taste, but it would appeal to mine.
Now, if Campagnolo had made one, we could do the same with an Italian frame. That would be cool! Oops, there I go again. Pardon me, I will stop needling you for a while now, on account of your kind offer.
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Update: this same LBS proved their worth again. I brought in an ALAN frame for a headset job. The mechanic gets misty eyed and grins a little. "Time for the nice tools", he says, while he slides out a complete set of the hallowed Campagnolo tools, still in the original wooden box. "Free of charge. Come show us the end result - I just finished an ALAN restoration myself with my dad, great bikes!".
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Update: this same LBS proved their worth again. I brought in an ALAN frame for a headset job. The mechanic gets misty eyed and grins a little. "Time for the nice tools", he says, while he slides out a complete set of the hallowed Campagnolo tools, still in the original wooden box. "Free of charge. Come show us the end result - I just finished an ALAN restoration myself with my dad, great bikes!".
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DUDE...I am so sorry! That is a loss, and I hope you catch the motherless cretin.
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Something else I nearly forgot - Rhm - I ended up just missing out on one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SUNT...item2ebf424c49
Which was what I wanted to give you for secret Santa.
Last edited by KonAaron Snake; 06-18-12 at 08:08 AM.
#25
Well, it's just a bike and it wasn't much of a museum piece, repaint and all, and I didn't had it long enough to become really attached to it, nor did I work on it a lot, but it still sucks. A well, a nice new acquisition will undoubtly arise when all the smoke clears that currently has put any major new builds on hold.




