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Shutter 02-24-12 07:05 PM

Cinelli Stem Frustration...
 
Ok... Sooo my bike has a Cinelli 1E stem and a Cinelli 64-42 drop bar combo. Works perfectly... Bolts in the stem are rusty so I was going to swap it for an XA stem

The XA stem is 26.0mm and that appears to be what the drop bar measures out to be... But I can't get the friggin bar into the stem... What am I doing wrong here??

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buldogge 02-24-12 07:09 PM

Is the Cinelli bar double grooved? Most of the 26.0 bars have a warning note on them...also, the 26.0 are all grooved I believe.

Bottom line...Cinelli produced XAs in both 26.4 and 26.0, same for 64s.

Shutter 02-24-12 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by buldogge (Post 13894714)
Is the Cinelli bar double grooved? Most of the 26.0 bars have a warning note on them...also, the 26.0 are all grooved I believe.

Bottom line...Cinelli produced XAs in both 26.4 and 26.0, same for 64s.

What do you mean by double grooved? Both XA stems are 26 (one is NOS) .. See pic below

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Otis 02-24-12 07:30 PM

The bar is most likely 26.4.

gaucho777 02-24-12 07:31 PM

He meant, is the bar double-grooved (indents for cables).

Most Cinelli bars and stems are 26.4. It sure sounds as if you are trying to fit a standard 26.4 Cinelli bar into the (less common) 26.0 Cinelli stem.

Shutter 02-24-12 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 13894810)
He meant, is the bar double-grooved (indents for cables).

Most Cinelli bars and stems are 26.4. It sure sounds as if you are trying to fit a standard 26.4 Cinelli bar into the (less common) 26.0 Cinelli stem.

Ah, no, not double grooved... It is drilled to run internal cabels though... Is the 1E stem 26 or 26.4?

gaucho777 02-24-12 07:45 PM

^ Since you say the bars fit the 1E stem (but not the 26.0mm XA stem), then the 1E stem must be 26.4.

P.s. The 64-42 indicates the drop and width of the bars, and has no relation to the bar diameter/stem compatibility.

Otis 02-24-12 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 13894827)
Ah, no, not double grooved... It is drilled to run internal cabels though... Is the 1E stem 26 or 26.4?

It's a 1A (not 1E). They were made in 26.4 and 26.0, but the vast majority are 26.4.

Shutter 02-24-12 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Otis (Post 13894865)
It's a 1A (not 1E). They were made in 26.4 and 26.0, but the vast majority are 26.4.

The original obe that fits the bar has 1E stamped into it (see above pic)

buldogge 02-24-12 07:50 PM

No...There were 1Es as well...1A was only 26.4, 1E was available as both.

The 64 was drilled by someone...not factory...26.4 if not grooved.

Shutter 02-24-12 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by buldogge (Post 13894880)
No...There were 1Es as well...1A was only 26.4, 1E was available as both.

The 64 was drilled by someone...not factory...26.4 if not grooved.

Ah, mystery solved. =)

Ok, I will live with the original stem then...

Thanks!

Shutter 02-24-12 10:23 PM

Done!!
 
Thanks for the help! Just finished... Cables would have been easier without the interrupter levers and bar end shifters but it will be a nice ride =)

This is my "backup" rider... Miele Doral Road Issue with full shimano 600

Yea.. I know... I need more practice with bar tape =)

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RobbieTunes 02-24-12 10:57 PM

Nice bike, but the thread made me dizzy for a while.

Shutter 02-24-12 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 13895445)
Nice bike, but the thread made me dizzy for a while.

Thanks! Yea, it's a bit frustrating with these minute 0.4 mm differences...

ColonelJLloyd 02-24-12 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 13895445)
Nice bike, but the thread made me dizzy for a while.

+1

Nice bike. You could stand to take a link out of your chain.

Shutter 02-24-12 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 13895465)
+1

Nice bike. You could stand to take a link out of your chain.

Thanks! Good point... I will check into that in the morning... The bike started as a beater for leaving locked up downtown... But now it's just too nice for that...

Orrery 02-24-12 11:16 PM

That always happens to my 'beaters' too...

Cool bike!

Shutter 02-24-12 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Orrery (Post 13895489)
That always happens to my 'beaters' too...

Cool bike!

Thanks! Yea... It all started when I put the Dura Ace seatpost in... Then Dura Ace Bar Ens shifters... Then one thing lead to another and it was full 600...

The frame is quite basic cr-mo Tange... Nothing special... I just really liked the factory pearl white paint

oldbobcat 02-25-12 12:32 AM

Cinelli made XA stems with 26.0 clamps so you could use them with 3T bars.

Shutter 02-25-12 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by oldbobcat (Post 13895650)
Cinelli made XA stems with 26.0 clamps so you could use them with 3T bars.

Thanks for the tip! I will keep that in mind for the future!


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