Hi!

After searching the forum and the net after a Centurion Pro Tour with feauters like mine Im reaching out here instead!

Can anyone tell me the year of this modell, I´m thinking about buying the frame for 50 bucks but it would be nice to know something about it, the seller doesent seem to know that much. All modells I´ve ssen on the web has vertical dropouts and none of them with the same paintjob as this one.



Big thanks!

Update 2012/08/04

Ok, now i got the frame in my hands and heres some more pictures for you!
The rear dropouts are marked suntour and the brakes are dia-compe, bottombracket is a sealed shimano something.

it looks great and just my size

i spot 2 water bottle mounts, so probably mid 80s and probably 700c vs 27".

I assumed that but can´t find any pics on later modells fully equiped, and did they keep the tubing from the early 80´s frames?

Probably Tange 2, or something that level. The Pro Tour is a nice bike. If it's straight and dent free, I'd be all over that.

Now it´s mine! Though I cant pick it up until next week... Do you know anything about seatpost and stem diameter? Thought I start sourcing parts for it...

The stem's 22.2, no idea on the seat post.

seat post is probably 26.6-26.8.

Just got a mail from the owner who said it´s labeled infinity, which means it´s Tange Infinity tubing on atleast some of the tubes.

That is a plum of a frame for a sweet price, newperson. Since you have now taunted us with a frame we'd all jump at, you are obligated to continue posting pictures of it as you build it up. Welcome to the forum! Great find.

What a great forum to join! Always been reeding posts but waited until now to register, why the wait! I hope I dont dissapoint anyone when I say that I will probably dont have the patience or the money to restore it like original, but the frame I sertainly wont modify after what I´ve learned today! Next weekend I will go pick it up. Then there will be pictures!

my size. gimmie dat beik

https://sheldonbrown.com/centurion198...0pro-tour.html

Here's info on a 1984 model, the year of my ProTour.

Maybe it was imported to a country other than the U.S. I do believe you're right in that I've never seen one without vertical dropouts. Either way, it looks like a great frame.

I've got some info on that frame... well, somewhere... I was thinking it's Tange #2 tubing like my '85 Shogun 2000.

I think mrmw built one of those, same color, same year. Try him.

centurion pro tour 15 seat post is 27.2

Tange Infinity tubing indicates NOT a Centurion Pro Tour, as in the tubing product line hierarchy Tange Infinity is lower end--although still pretty damned good. i.e. It's the tubing on my wife's Panasonic Sport 1000.

You are right about vertical dropouts--Centurion Pro Tour has beautiful chromed machined vertical dropouts. In all honesty, I prefer horizontal dropouts as they adapt best to modern 130mm OLD wheels and indexing.

This looks like a great frame. Check that it's straight, either at home, or have a shop do it.

I am not the expert on Pro Tours, but the canti brakes suggest a later bike.

Looks to me like it has braze-ons for 3 water bottles.

Muy '84 only has 2, top and bottom of the down tube.

That frame really has some nice features.
Definitely built with touring in mind, and serious about it.

Double eyelets front and rear
Clearance for fenders, large tires
Canti bosses
Triple cage bosses
Front and rear c-pull stops

People pay serious money for older Expedition and Miyata 1000 touring frames like that,
and just as much for new Soma's set up the same way. Rock that ride.

Hopefully soon it will be in my hands and I will begin building it up. Just got to decide if I´m going single speed or if I can come up with the money for gears...

So now I got a pair of rims and hubs to build my wheels, I bought them second hand but never used. Rims will be Mavic a319 32h and the hubs are Deore LX. Now I´ve been thinking about wether I should keep the LX or go for a road hub, say 105, will I notice any differnce in spinn for example? Im going single speed and will not carry that much weight.

the deore hub will be spaced at 135, so you will need to spread the frame from probably 126. you wouldn't have to spread them if you used a road hub at 130.

Yes, that I´m aware of. Decided to go down that road since I got the feeling that an mtb hub in most casses were prefered for touring and allaround year usage. But I might rethink...

Well, there is a way to cheat a MTB hub down to 130. You can replace the 8/9/10 speed freehub with a 7 speed freehub, then cut down or replace the axle with a 130 mm. I know it can be done because I did the reverse, bringing an MTB 130 up to 135.
EDIT: Almost forgot, you'll have to change the spacer on the left side to bring it down to 130. Also, you should decide which way to go before you build the wheel because it may affect the centering of the rim. Easier to do it just once.

nice frame,... what size wheels 27 or 700c?

Who. no need to engage in radical surgery such as changing the freehub. google the shimano spec for your hub--it will have the assembly drawing showing each washer and spacer and their widths.

Remove an equal amount of space from each side; sometimes you have to add some back. Now your mtn hub is spaced at 130 like a road hub. I've done this many times. You can too!

Going from 126 to 130 OLD, there is no need to stretch the frame either. If you want to use a 7 speed cassette, first put a 3.3 to 4 mm spacer onto the freehub. Else 8,9 and 10 speed cassettes mount with no problem.