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Old 05-22-12, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by calamarichris
What's the point of the second top-tube though?
More unweight-weenifying?

It's not structural. It stores a green waxed cotton rain cape with brass rivets. There's also room for an extra skein of hemp twine and two corks.
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On their larger framed bikes(>65cm) they add the extra tube to make it more rigid. One of the reasons I love their bikes is because they go all the way up to 71cm. Someday I may own one but the cheap side of me is content with making my own versions.
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Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co
It's not structural. It stores a green waxed cotton rain cape with brass rivets. There's also room for an extra skein of hemp twine and two corks.
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Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co
It's not structural. It stores a green waxed cotton rain cape with brass rivets. There's also room for an extra skein of hemp twine and two corks.
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Come on ten!

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Plus you get moar lugz!

I downloaded the book on my Kindle; overall it was a quick and interesting read but nothing too surprising. I don't think I will give up my clipless pedals but overall I am fairly in the GP sphere of things (Have a RB-1; BOBishly-modified Miyata Triplecross commuter type bike, etc). My diet and exercise goals also kind of jive with what he says. For people outside the C&V sphere maybe it could do some good.

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Originally Posted by ebr898
Leaving the computer off my commuting bike, best thing I did.

Are we there yet? pg 10
Ironic that you're more interested in the quantity over quality aspect of this thread, but vice versa for your bicyce-riding.

UPS just delivered "Just Ride" today. Looking forward to starting it tonight... "unracing." Funny how many acquaintances I have who have already swallowed the Kool-Aid on this one. (Either that or I single-handedly crushed the HTFU right out of them. haha)
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I hate opinionated arse holes... does that make me one?

Anyway I hope to do my part and bump this to ten pages.
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
me no... I spend $300 dollars on a bike new in 82...the about 400 to comletely retrofit it, I do ride it my work clothes once in a while (drop car off at shop, put pants in socks and go 3 miles to work) but normally put on gramiccie shorts and a tshirt

but that is not the point. the point is that while it is hard to compare Rivendell bikes to others because his design is often singular.

in this case Comparing a Roadeo with a Specialized Robaix is a pretty close comparison bike designed to go fast, long, but not pure race. (and mostly not ridden in work clothes) and with same/similar components the prices at about $3900 are comparable. So GP's bikes are not always more expensive than others.
Only quasi seriously, I'll just leave this here:
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ord_deluxe.htm
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Originally Posted by Orrery
Plus you get moar lugz!

I downloaded the book on my Kindle; overall it was a quick and interesting read but nothing too surprising. I don't think I will give up my clipless pedals but overall I am fairly in the GP sphere of things (Have a RB-1; BOBishly-modified Miyata Triplecross commuter type bike, etc). My diet and exercise goals also kind of jive with what he says. For people outside the C&V sphere maybe it could do some good.
What book was this?
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The "Just Ride" book that Grant Petersen recently published.
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Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co
It's not structural. It stores a green waxed cotton rain cape with brass rivets. There's also room for an extra skein of hemp twine and two corks.

Wait a minute, this guy isn't some surreptitious steampunk proselytizer, is he? If there's one thing I can't abide, it's steampunk.

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Originally Posted by calamarichris

Wait a minute, this guy isn't some surreptitious steampunk proselytizer, is he? If there's one thing I can't abide, it's steampunk.

I am sure your are a utilikilt kinda guy https://www.utilikilts.com/

grant is more poncho https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ar1.htm

knickers https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ab2.htm
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I like the Rivendell website. Grant does love his bikes. He is fixated on touring and grocery hauling. One subject that I agree with is gearing, or more accurately, sprocket & chainwheel sizing. His position is that the average road bike is way overgeared. GP recommends a large chainwheel of no more than 46. The standard Rivendell crank is 46-36-24.

Complete article: https://www.rivbike.com/Cranks-Chainrings-s/41.htm

What say you road riders?
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Originally Posted by calamarichris
What's the point of the second top-tube though?
More unweight-weenifying?
Not much point that I can see. I would think large frames would benefit more from a double downtube.

Originally Posted by Flying Merkel
I like the Rivendell website. Grant does love his bikes. He is fixated on touring and grocery hauling. One subject that I agree with is gearing, or more accurately, sprocket & chainwheel sizing. His position is that the average road bike is way overgeared. GP recommends a large chainwheel of no more than 46. The standard Rivendell crank is 46-36-24.

Complete article: https://www.rivbike.com/Cranks-Chainrings-s/41.htm

What say you road riders?
it depends. Probably overgeared for most people putzing around on their bike, but with triples and compacts giving such a wide range, it doesn't hurt. I very rarely use my 53-12, but it's good to have once in a while.
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Originally Posted by Flying Merkel
I like the Rivendell website. Grant does love his bikes. He is fixated on touring and grocery hauling. One subject that I agree with is gearing, or more accurately, sprocket & chainwheel sizing. His position is that the average road bike is way overgeared. GP recommends a large chainwheel of no more than 46. The standard Rivendell crank is 46-36-24.

Complete article: https://www.rivbike.com/Cranks-Chainrings-s/41.htm

What say you road riders?
Too low, with ten sprockets in the back and 30 40 50 you have all you need, plus gears for a little tail wind or downhill when touring.
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
I am sure your are a utilikilt kinda guy https://www.utilikilts.com/
Hurtful thing to say. Are you bitter because you're heavy into steampunk?
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My Univega has a 52-42-32 in front and 14-26 6 speed in back. Eventually I'd like to try a 12-28 8 speed. I don't want to change the front crank & chainwheels mostly due to looks. I rarely use the 32 (or is it 34?). A 46-36-24 would probably work fine for me.
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Absolutely no need to bring the utilikilt into this. no need at all. https://theoatmeal.com/blog/utilikilt
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Originally Posted by calamarichris

Wait a minute, this guy isn't some surreptitious steampunk proselytizer, is he? If there's one thing I can't abide, it's steampunk.

I see three very good reasons to like steam punk in that pic.
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Originally Posted by Italuminium
Absolutely no need to bring the utilikilt into this. no need at all. https://theoatmeal.com/blog/utilikilt
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Originally Posted by Orrery
The "Just Ride" book that Grant Petersen recently published.
You don't say? I'll look online for my tablet.
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I have to admit Riv, has had good customer service when I have bought parts through them. Has any one read the books on the recomended list? I read throught "the epidemic" about parenting and changing the ills that modern society help propagate with our children.
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Originally Posted by Amesja
That's what it costs to make that stuff NEW.

But we C&V freaks know we do not need to replicate stuff new when most of the things GP is doing with bikes has been done before "in the good old days" and can be found used cheaper.
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Nope. It ain't the same. I own a very nice Trek 560 with 531 tubing and it is a great and very comfortable road bike. For anything more than 25 miles, I'll take the Hunq. Those small but important changes GP makes in geometry are extremely important and affect the comfort and use of the bikes. Anybody who thinks that Rivendell bikes are just overpriced versions of classic bikes found on Ebay or Craigslist are just wrong. Don't let the lugs fool you.

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Originally Posted by fender1
Riv is anti helmet. C'mon page 10!
You should read the book, there's a surprise inside!!!!

We're pushing 11

Not bad, 10 pages, 4 days but still nothing compared to the introduction of the "mystery bike" sale,
...oh did I bring that up?

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