element-82

Has anyone used these Servicio Corsa tubulars from Yellow Jersey? I am currently thinking of swapping out my rims for clinchers on my PX10, but I thought I would see what the options are. I thought tubulars were a lot more expensive.

Pb

23skidoo

Best bang for the bucks in tubular tires hands down; I've got them on a few wheelsets and have never had a problem.

iab

Cheap. They roll round. But that is all I will say good about them.

They ride like a truck. I have had cheap clinchers with a better ride quality. I use them as a spare they only needs to get me home.

If you are on the fence about tubulars, keep in mind the crappy ride quality. Nice starter tires because of the cost but on the other hand, don't expect any performance from them. If the "hassle" is not much for you, I'd recommend an upgrade for your next set of tires.

CV-6 

Add to this they are difficult to mount properly, that is get aligned, compared to a more expensive tubular. At least IME.

element-82

Thanks for the feedback guys. I will have to think it over some more.

Pb

Road Fan

They may be more difficult to mount straight than a fully hand made tire like some Challenges, Veloflex, top Vittorias, Dugast and the others at the top, but that doesn't put them in the bottom of the barrell. IMO what's at the bottom are Continental Giros and Vittoria Rallye. I've had some good experience with the V-R, but some bad ones as well, and at least one user here has had them spontaneously break for no apparent reason (sent me the evidence, FWIW).

The YJs give IMO a decent ride, that with careful setting of tire pressure is supple and smooth. Some other tires that cost a lot more are rather more harsh, such as the Conti Sprinter.

One that is also cheap, but a much better ride, is the Gommitalia Champion.

I know it's not easy to search on BF, but a review of the list of C&V links thread should show you a very long thread called "Totally Tubular." It was supposed to be an easy to find place for existing tubular knowledge and the debates about it, and for us to update as we learned new things. All this is in there. It's smart to rethink when you read a negative review, but you have to learn the people, too. Many of us try to be even handed and not overstate the goods or the bads. Glowing reviews are not common here. What you got from iab was honest, but I think more information is available for you to consider.

I think the YJ is still a bargain, unless you can find Gommitalia Champions. If you want to give tubulars a trial for a low price, those two (the YJ and the Gommi) are the choices. Both are Thai-made, decent rides, and amazing value for the money. If, after you like them, you want to spring >$100 each to see what's at the top of the range, you'll have a benchmark before you buy.

Your PX-10 is worth the best, btw!

element-82

Hi RF,
thanks for info and the pointer to the totally tubulars. I will go and dig. I will look into the gommies too. I am starting to think that tires are a religious experience, just like pedals ;-) BTW I have had the px 10 for nearly a day now and I although I haven't ridden it yet (tire issue) I really like the bike.

Thanks,
Pb

dddd

I will second RoadFan's experience, at least I have had much better luck with the YJ tires than Giros or even Rallyes.
Giros are junk, most failed at modest pressure.
Both ride quality and appearance of the YJ's also was better imo.
I have less experience with better tubulars, but the sluggish tubeless S22 Tufos were at least VERY durable, slow to age and slow to wear.

SteveSGP

My son has the Servio Corsas on his Viscount and loves them but they are the only tubulars he's ridden.

I just mounted a set on my tubular wheels but haven't gotten them on the bike yet.

Bianchigirll 

I normally use cheaper tubulars and while I don't have alot of miles on my SC tires just yet they don't seem too bad. Perhaps I should mount a pair and ride them.

I do think they are worth a try even just for the experience, like everyone should try driving a 'standard' transmission. They are better tire than the Vittoria Formula 1 of years ago.

Drillium Dude 

Bummer. I have an NOS pair of Giros that look great and weigh next to nothing. They are (were?) slated to be glued up on the Mavic SSCs I have coming, but now I'm not so sure

What's the issue (issues?) with the Giros if you don't mind me asking?

FWIW, the label says they will blow up to 140psi.

DD

roadrunner2012

If I had a set of SSC's, they would get Conti Competitions or Veloflex Criteriums, depending on the look I wanted. Or something better, certainly not worse.

I've never understood cheap tyres on good wheels.

gomango

Agreed.

I know folks that have had good luck with the YJ tires, such as Steve above.

I respect his opinion.

...and I know he's had good luck.

I bought a set of these for grins and one had a large bulge in the tread.

So much for that bright idea.

The lowest quality tire I'll put on is the Sprinter.

I like its handling characteristics a great deal and I've seen them reasonably priced.

The Veloflex Criteriums mentioned above are the real winner though.

Have them on my Extreme Power and they are as nice as any I've ridden.

YoKev

Good to hear the different opinions. I'll probably be ordering three of these soon and to give 'em a try. They're going on a bike I'm not sure I'm even going to keep, so it makes sense.

Maxturbo

A quick link:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...otally+Tubular

Road Fan

Ok, this is just my experience and opinion:

Seam tape is extraordinatily difficult to remove.

Carcass in two cases has fractured, so those tires look like they have snakes growing in them.

Valve tore out of a tube.

Leaks at the valve, non-repairable.

When rideable, they rode like aluminum hoops.

I think that's enough.

Is it a good design with horrid quality control? Who would ever know? IMO it's just a piece of ****. But the last one I bought was before 2000. Conti could have fixed them. But I'll never know.

I would not consider these good tires for good wheels. At best, they are occasional spares, and you should worry about damaging the valves by using them.

But this is just my opinion.

Henry III

I've had two bikes with YJ tubulars and never had any issues. I used some on a commuter bike and never got a flat. I had one with a 3/8" gash with the tube sticking out but never went flat and continued to ride with it like that. I personally think they're an awesome deal. That's just my opinion.

dddd

Giros tend to get blisters under the tread, where the tube somehow sneaks through the tire casing. Once formed, the blisters pop, usually within an hour of riding. Ralleys and especially the former Michelin Liberty tire also do this. I never inflated any of these past 100psi.

I wouldn't say any tubulars ride terribly, but the lighter ones do have a nicer ride imo.

For non-racing application, looks and reliability count most (and finding the desired width, if there is a choice).

roadrunner2012

If you ride at 12-14 mph, anything is fine. If you have a tendency too corner hot, you get what you pay for. There is a reason.

suncake

I'm in the same boat as the OP, restoring a PX10.

I just ordered a pair of Gommitalia Champions from BikeSomeWhere last night ($60.86 shipped), based largely on Road Fan's recommendations in C&V.

I was also considering the lighter and slightly pricier Schwalbe Milano's @ 250g & about $35-40 (vs. 280g for the Gommi's, 295g for the YJ), which I believe Chombi had positive things to say.

I also considered a hybrid between a lighter, less puncture proof tire up front (Milano), and a cheaper Gommi/YJ in the back.

nlerner

I wonder what OFG would do?

rootboy 

Swear?

roadrunner2012

Ride his three speed?

repechage

DD- don't dispair. I just wore out a set of Giros. One flat and regulated to spare duty, the other went to basically the cord. The tread on the other did start to crack, but upon checking these were on a set of wheels starting in 2003. This set of wheels received about 6k miles of use.

On the Rallys I will say that the 23 mm version is a better tire than the 21 mm, not sure on which one is current mfg.
I bought a case 3 years ago and they are in use as necessary aging mode.

And that is at the base of my comments and I have stated this before, aging tires is necessary. Not fun as it ties up capital but it really helps. I think 6-9 months is a minimum.

Wildwood 

Tubular newbie here but my first glue job of Vittoria Rallye's went well.
Not enough miles to comment on durability/wear, but i like the smooth ride on 23s.
Low weight wheels are a delight.

Looking for a second set of tubular wheels.