Help identifying a frame?
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Help identifying a frame?
Hi folks,
New to the forum and was hoping you might be able to help me identify what make/brand one of my current projects is. Only information I have is that is was sold as a vintage French road frame and the serial no's on the bottom are V42116 20J
The other unusual feature (to me anyway) is the stays. The are rounded, with the dropouts welded on the inside, not seen any like this before?
Many thanks.

New to the forum and was hoping you might be able to help me identify what make/brand one of my current projects is. Only information I have is that is was sold as a vintage French road frame and the serial no's on the bottom are V42116 20J
The other unusual feature (to me anyway) is the stays. The are rounded, with the dropouts welded on the inside, not seen any like this before?
Many thanks.
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This wins the uncommon award today, stick welded for the most part, but the bottom bracket joints could be fillet brazed, cannot tell.
Really unusual stay treatment. I have seen this before but not very often, and Not French.
There were a few Italian small wheeled foldables that used a similar basic concept.
Not a high priced frame for sure.
How did you determine it was French?
Really unusual stay treatment. I have seen this before but not very often, and Not French.
There were a few Italian small wheeled foldables that used a similar basic concept.
Not a high priced frame for sure.
How did you determine it was French?
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The Stays are interesting but I can't say much for the craftsmanship.
Personally I would say it was a very lowend frame/bike and the bent stays were a costsaving measure as would be the pinched forkends. I could be and likely I am but that is just my impression.


Where are you and hte bike located?
Personally I would say it was a very lowend frame/bike and the bent stays were a costsaving measure as would be the pinched forkends. I could be and likely I am but that is just my impression.
Where are you and hte bike located?
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Thanks for the reply. The listing on fleabay had it described as French so I figured I'd go with that. Got a old Motobecane frame with it. I trawled google images trying to find something similar looking, but couldn't find anything close. Not a thing of beauty, and heavy man, but can't complain for 7 quid! Thanks
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Could be, but it is serial numbered. Looked at a load of Peugeots last night, saw a few 80's folding bikes and some other ladies bikes with similar stays, but no road bikes remotely like it.
Was always going to be a cheap project to sell (prob for the burgeoning FG market round here). Working on a Motobecane and a Miyata as well, which will get a bit more thought.
Thanks for all the replies so far.
Was always going to be a cheap project to sell (prob for the burgeoning FG market round here). Working on a Motobecane and a Miyata as well, which will get a bit more thought.
Thanks for all the replies so far.
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Cheap projects are cool. Anyway you go with it is how it's suppose to turn out. Even better, if there's some money to you in the end ! Good luck with the build.
Around here(South) we have some who cut up old frames and use the parts to make "one of a kind" builds, imaginations are their limits. That serial number could be from one such bike before it was cut up.
Still a cool project where ever/whatever the frame started out from.
Around here(South) we have some who cut up old frames and use the parts to make "one of a kind" builds, imaginations are their limits. That serial number could be from one such bike before it was cut up.
Still a cool project where ever/whatever the frame started out from.






