Can anyone help identify this frame?
 

Need help identifying this restored frame. Anyone have any thoughts?http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=252532

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Thank you

I know the decals say Miyata, but not sure as the frame has been restored

Might be a Miyata 1000 LT touring frame, but I think those have double eyelets on the dropouts.

Serial number, lug closeups, and BB shell dimensions (presumably 68mm x 1.375" x 24 TPI) would help.

Of course, serial # TU 20476. According to Miyata the first letter T indicates that the frame was made in 1991. BB shell is 68. Not sure what model Miyata it is. Thanks for your help.

Not sure frame is a miyata 1000LT as dropouts don't have double eyelets. Need a Miyata expert.

I've worked and owned Miyatas; this could well be a Miyata. Koga Miyata is how the bike was branded in Europe, not the States. Usually when there is a question about the provenance of a frame, it is because the bike has been restored with decals that make it seem like a better bike. That is not really the case here. The manganese frame tubing (I think that is what the tubing decal says) came on some Miyatas but it was not their high end tubing. The bike looks great. Personally, I'd ride it and not worry about whether it is a Miyata or not.

What wheel size? 26" or 700c?

This is not entirely accurate. Koga Miyata is not a Euro branded Miyata, it's a different company. It's a partnership between Dutch interests and miyata...they had, and have, unique frames. They aren't miyatas with different decals, though they at times share frames with Miyata. Generally k-m is more money and they have extras, for instance the 1000 is NOT the same as the traveler series. The paint on my KM is substantially nicer than what you'd find on a Miyata (and Miyatas had nice paint most of the time). This looks like one of their sport touring models from the late 80s, I forget the name, but Mel will know. I could be wrong, but this looks earlier than 91' to me.

I want to say gents series.

http://www.koga.com/koga_uk/my-koga/...chures//#older

This might help.

Cool, didn't know about the corporate differences between KM and M. I've owned both and rode a KM touring model pretty extensively in Europe. The bike certainly looks like a Miyata to me and the restoration job appears first rate from the pics.

It's not just a corporate difference...the bikes are different and they branched further apart with time. Some are more similar than others (generally in the more mid-range category). The Koga Miyata Traveler is an entirely different beast from a 1000...they don't ride the same, the BB height is different, they have extra features that a 100 doesn't have.

700c I believe.

Concerning Miyata serial numbers, I found this on the web;


I figured out all the serial numbers for Miyata Bicycles Made in Japan Since 1972, according with the first letter on the serial number.
A 1972 B 1973 C1974 D1975 E1076 F 1977 G 1978 H 1979 I 1980 J 1981 K 1982 L 1983
M 1984 N 1985 O 1986 P 1987 Q 1998 R 1989 S 1990 T 1991 U 1992 V 1993 W 1994 X 1995
Y 1996 Z 1997

So serial # TU20476 means the frame was built in 1991.