Can anyone help identify this frame?
05-26-12 | 06:23 AM
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Serial number, lug closeups, and BB shell dimensions (presumably 68mm x 1.375" x 24 TPI) would help.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
05-27-12 | 09:20 AM
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I've worked and owned Miyatas; this could well be a Miyata. Koga Miyata is how the bike was branded in Europe, not the States. Usually when there is a question about the provenance of a frame, it is because the bike has been restored with decals that make it seem like a better bike. That is not really the case here. The manganese frame tubing (I think that is what the tubing decal says) came on some Miyatas but it was not their high end tubing. The bike looks great. Personally, I'd ride it and not worry about whether it is a Miyata or not.
05-27-12 | 09:43 AM
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I've worked and owned Miyatas; this could well be a Miyata. Koga Miyata is how the bike was branded in Europe, not the States. Usually when there is a question about the provenance of a frame, it is because the bike has been restored with decals that make it seem like a better bike. That is not really the case here. The manganese frame tubing (I think that is what the tubing decal says) came on some Miyatas but it was not their high end tubing. The bike looks great. Personally, I'd ride it and not worry about whether it is a Miyata or not.
I want to say gents series.
https://www.koga.com/koga_uk/my-koga/...chures//#older
This might help.
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05-27-12 | 10:11 AM
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This is not entirely accurate. Koga Miyata is not a Euro branded Miyata, it's a different company. It's a partnership between Dutch interests and miyata...they had, and have, unique frames. They aren't miyatas with different decals, though they at times share frames with Miyata. Generally k-m is a little more money and has extras, for instance the 1000 is NOT the same as the traveler series. This looks like one of their sport touring models from the late 80s, I forget the name, but Mel will know. I could be wrong, but this looks earlier than 91' to me.
I want to say gents series.
https://www.koga.com/koga_uk/my-koga/...chures//#older
This might help.
I want to say gents series.
https://www.koga.com/koga_uk/my-koga/...chures//#older
This might help.
05-27-12 | 10:40 AM
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It's not just a corporate difference...the bikes are different and they branched further apart with time. Some are more similar than others (generally in the more mid-range category). The Koga Miyata Traveler is an entirely different beast from a 1000...they don't ride the same, the BB height is different, they have extra features that a 100 doesn't have.
05-27-12 | 07:28 PM
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Concerning Miyata serial numbers, I found this on the web;
I figured out all the serial numbers for Miyata Bicycles Made in Japan Since 1972, according with the first letter on the serial number.
A 1972 B 1973 C1974 D1975 E1076 F 1977 G 1978 H 1979 I 1980 J 1981 K 1982 L 1983
M 1984 N 1985 O 1986 P 1987 Q 1998 R 1989 S 1990 T 1991 U 1992 V 1993 W 1994 X 1995
Y 1996 Z 1997
So serial # TU20476 means the frame was built in 1991.
I figured out all the serial numbers for Miyata Bicycles Made in Japan Since 1972, according with the first letter on the serial number.
A 1972 B 1973 C1974 D1975 E1076 F 1977 G 1978 H 1979 I 1980 J 1981 K 1982 L 1983
M 1984 N 1985 O 1986 P 1987 Q 1998 R 1989 S 1990 T 1991 U 1992 V 1993 W 1994 X 1995
Y 1996 Z 1997
So serial # TU20476 means the frame was built in 1991.
