View Poll Results: Are you a Pro? - or a hobbiest?
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Are you a Pro? or a hobbiest?
#1
Are you a Pro? or a hobbiest?
I'm always impressed by the depth of knowledge here in C&V - both about the bikes themselves, and their care and feeding.
It seems to me that we have a disproportionate number of professionals who actively participate in this forum, so I thought I would post a poll to learn what proportion of you have had more than an avocational interest in cycling - (aside from flipping that is.)
So... Tell us if you were a professional mechanic, salesman, racer, builder, distributor or shop owner or otherwise were engaged with cycling in the past or present.
As for me, C&V is just a hobby, and aside from the many rusted trash-picked cruisers I collected, disassembled and reassembled as a child, practically everything I know I learned right here (or from Sheldon Brown.com.)
It seems to me that we have a disproportionate number of professionals who actively participate in this forum, so I thought I would post a poll to learn what proportion of you have had more than an avocational interest in cycling - (aside from flipping that is.)
So... Tell us if you were a professional mechanic, salesman, racer, builder, distributor or shop owner or otherwise were engaged with cycling in the past or present.
As for me, C&V is just a hobby, and aside from the many rusted trash-picked cruisers I collected, disassembled and reassembled as a child, practically everything I know I learned right here (or from Sheldon Brown.com.)
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From: SW Colorado
Bikes: 2019 Gorilla Monsoon, 2013 Surly Krampus, Brompton folder
Was an entry level shop mech back in the mid 80's. Built lots of Rosses, and when lucky, an Ibis. But since then just muck about with bikes on my own.
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Joined: May 2009
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From: Rural Retreat, VA
Bikes: 1974 Gazelle Champion Mondial, 2010 Cannondale Trail SL, 1988 Peugeot Nice, 1992ish Stumpjumper Comp,1990's Schwinn Moab
I will have a racing license some day. Today is not that day.
#7
Go ahead an gloat, Kurt -- You've earned it - But unless your pay check came that way I'm afraid you'll have to vote "hobbiest"!
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Joined: Apr 2012
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From: Denver, Colorado USA
Bikes: '86 Moots Mountaineer, '94 Salsa Ala Carte, '94 S-Works FSR, 1983 Trek 600 & 620
I worked in the industry from 1984-2000 as a Salesman, Assembler, Mechanic, Service and Store Manager. I also raced on the Road, X-C, DH and Trials.
I now have a small repair shop working on bikes and occasionally flipping one or two of them.
The cool thing for me is that what we call C & V now was 'the norm' for me working in the shop back then; the days when the sales floor was filled with
drop bar road bikes at every price point and for every discipline, and the four or five mountain bikes in the corner of the store were the 'new' kid on the block.
I now have a small repair shop working on bikes and occasionally flipping one or two of them.
The cool thing for me is that what we call C & V now was 'the norm' for me working in the shop back then; the days when the sales floor was filled with
drop bar road bikes at every price point and for every discipline, and the four or five mountain bikes in the corner of the store were the 'new' kid on the block.
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From: on the beach
Bikes: '73 falcon sr, '76 grand record, '84 davidson
'hobbyist' implies one pursues his hobbies in his spare time. but if you're not employed (not the same as unemployed) or are retired, 'spare time' falls short of defining the time and work commitment. still, there's a great gulf between this and being pro. i'll probably never be paid for my hobby like a pro. [insert low wage joke here.] i guess what i'm saying is ... er ... what i'm asking is, are these our only choices?
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From: Hurricane Alley , Florida
Bikes: Treks (USA), Schwinn Paramount, Schwinn letour,Raleigh Team Professional, Gazelle GoldLine Racing, 2 Super Mondias, Carlton Professional.
Bike hobbiest. Pro Automotive Technician.
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Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Fairplay Co
Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed
I consider myself a hobby flipper guy. Mainly because in my opinion your not a Pro unless you make a good living at something.
#12
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From: Eau Claire, Wisconsin. USA
Bikes: It's a SICKNESS!
Former Pro now a Hobbyist.
"......professional mechanic, salesman, racer....."
Yes, Yes, kinda
7 Years between 2 shops also on USCF teams for both shops.
Now I eBay, flip, strip, paint..... I do what ever the heck I want.
"......professional mechanic, salesman, racer....."
Yes, Yes, kinda
7 Years between 2 shops also on USCF teams for both shops.
Now I eBay, flip, strip, paint..... I do what ever the heck I want.
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Not even sure I'm a good hobbyist, but I know what things I like to do....
...none of which will ever earn me anything but general good will....
...well, except the gigolo thing, that kind of fell through...
I'm just:
"that guy in that house over there-he fixes bikes."
"that guy over there on that steel bike, ask him..."
"the guy in Nashville may have some parts for that...
"..if he doesn't have it, you'll have to look on the internet."
"that old guy over there, he may buy that thing.."
"the bike shop told me to call you...."
"why are those women laughing?"
...none of which will ever earn me anything but general good will....
...well, except the gigolo thing, that kind of fell through...
I'm just:
"that guy in that house over there-he fixes bikes."
"that guy over there on that steel bike, ask him..."
"the guy in Nashville may have some parts for that...
"..if he doesn't have it, you'll have to look on the internet."
"that old guy over there, he may buy that thing.."
"the bike shop told me to call you...."
"why are those women laughing?"
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#14
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From: Metro Detroit
Bikes: Bertoni Corsa Mondiale, Bridgestone T-700, Miyata 700 GT, Trek 600, Trek 560 Professional Series, Chrome Panasonic DX 2000, Peugeot PH12, Peugeot PX10, Schwinn World Voyageur, Schwinn Circuit, and Schwinn Voyageur
My primary calling is as a minister, but I do work part time as a bike mechanic/saleman to supplement my income. Although I work at a shop, I'm a hobbiest that gets paid for enjoying his hobby. I do flip bikes, but most of my flips fund other projects or upgrade components.
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From: on the beach
Bikes: '73 falcon sr, '76 grand record, '84 davidson
there are hundreds if not thouands of very accomplished golfers in the u.s. alone that have become pros on tour, a mini tour, or at the club level, that, financially, are barely getting by. most do this for a while, break down, and leave the sport to sell insurance... or follow some other 'professional' endeavour where they might more easily make a good living. nitpicking, yeah, but it's something of an appropriate example of the poor, but talented professional.
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From: On the road-USA
Bikes: Giant Excursion, Raleigh Sports, Raleigh R.S.W. Compact, Motobecane? and about 20 more! OMG
I plugged in hobbyist...however, I was an ASE Certified Auto Mechanic a long time ago. I also wrenched and raced bikes back in the mid 1970's. I have a high mechanical aptitude and love tinkering and bikes are a helluva lot more affordable than Porsche and Cessna. 
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"Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"_Nicodemus
"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred
Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"_krazygluon
Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(
ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.
"Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"_Nicodemus
"Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred
Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"_krazygluon
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From: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones
I worked in shops in the 80s both in the States and in Europe. I raced some locally. I've had the touring bug for a long time. Now I'm a hobbyist. I work on my bikes, help friends work on their bikes, and from time to time can't resist picking up another bike.
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From: Mans of NC & SW UT Desert
Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more
The thing about a hobbyist, is if you pick a small niche, you can become a "subject matter expert", and more knowledgable than many "pros".
I am an engineer by education, and spent over 30 years in operations and maintenance management. Never worked in a bike shop. Never raced either.
I am an engineer by education, and spent over 30 years in operations and maintenance management. Never worked in a bike shop. Never raced either.
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The thing about a hobbyist, is if you pick a small niche, you can become a "subject matter expert", and more knowledgable than many "pros".
I am an engineer by education, and spent over 30 years in operations and maintenance management. Never worked in a bike shop. Never raced either.
I am an engineer by education, and spent over 30 years in operations and maintenance management. Never worked in a bike shop. Never raced either.
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I make bike parts for my job. Most are for modern bikes but some are for older bikes. Here is a step I made recently for a high-wheel bike. This was a gift to another collector who was helpful on one of my projects.

29 806 by barnstormerbikes, on Flickr
I may use the word "professional" to describe making a living with my crafts, frame building and metal fabrication but I wouldn't call myself a "bike industry professional" but more due to my objectives and behavior.
I would describe most of you with the whatever accolade you thought suited you best. As long as you aspire to gain mastery and are absolutely serious about your level of workmanship and how you describe your skills to the people you trade with, you are a pro in my book.

29 806 by barnstormerbikes, on Flickr
I may use the word "professional" to describe making a living with my crafts, frame building and metal fabrication but I wouldn't call myself a "bike industry professional" but more due to my objectives and behavior.

I would describe most of you with the whatever accolade you thought suited you best. As long as you aspire to gain mastery and are absolutely serious about your level of workmanship and how you describe your skills to the people you trade with, you are a pro in my book.
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#23
Bumbling, non-mechanically inclined fool and part-time thread stripper was not an option, so I picked amateur. I like mechanics and I love to build stuff though, but given my condition (waaaay to trembling hands) I'm out for all serious attempts at doing something that requires any dexterity in a professional way.
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From: Hervey Bay, Qld, Australia.
Bikes: Colnago (82, 85, 89, 90, 91, 96, 03), 85 Cinelli, 90 Rossin, 83 Alan, 82 Bianchi, 78 Fountain, 2 x Pinarello, Malvern Star (37), Hillman (70's), 80's Beretto Lo-Pro Track, 80's Kenevans Lo-Pro, Columbus Max (95), DeGrandi (80's) Track.
Happy to be a honest and humble hobbiest.
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Bumbling, non-mechanically inclined fool and part-time thread stripper was not an option, so I picked amateur. I like mechanics and I love to build stuff though, but given my condition (waaaay to trembling hands) I'm out for all serious attempts at doing something that requires any dexterity in a professional way.
I knew a guy who did lettering and stripes on hotrods that shook so bad he couldn't hold a cup of coffee. I never saw him paint in person but his work was perfect and all brush.












