I have an 84 pug canyon express, rollercam on the cs is in place but none on the fork. The cs mounted brake apparently has longer arms as it won't work on the fork. The cs brake is the model with the through holes in the arms. Is the model without the through holes the correct size for the fork. I can't seem to find any dimensions? On ebay the through hole model consistently sells for around $90, without $10-15, whats up with that?

thanks,

Brian

Catalog pic has through holes....

And as far as I know rollercam brakes have different stud placement which means nothing else will work. Are you sure the forks original?

Pug Canyon Express did not have roller cams until about 1986. You might have a roller cam rear and a canti-studed fork (ala Ritchey and Fishers of the era). My guess is you have a replacement fork as Peugeot's never came that way.

U-brakes & roller cams use the same boss placement.

Looks like I have an 86' https://www.peugeotshow.com/1986us/1986us_09.jpg I found this page after I posted. The fork brake is not the through hole model. Does anyone know if the brake shown in the link is always used on the fork and not on the cs? I have the yellow one, but it's rattlecanned/brushed a funky red.

thanks,

Brian

Your fork is not original if it does not take roller cams.

My Orient Express takes a roller cam in the rear and a canti in the front. I changed the roller cam to a Campy Euclid U brake and I like it much better.

If a brake stud takes a canti brake it will never take a roller-cam or U-brake. And vice versa.

Well that explains the disclaimer, 'specifications subject to change without notice'.

Not really.

https://mysite.verizon.net/imagelib/s...z&title=Canyon Express & Orient Express

Exactly Grand Bois, I linked the same site above in my second post, fork braze-ons same as my bike. The point of my question is not whether or not the brazes are for a canti or roller cam(definitely for the roller, definitely is the original fork), it is the issue of the cs brake not working with the fork braze-ons, the arms are too long. Still looking for specs on the two different models(through hole vs. non) to see which models have the shorter/longer arms. I'll post a pic of it later today.

thanks, Brian

Suntour roller cams only come in one arm length. If the brake bosses on the fork are further down the fork blade (below the plane of the rim,) they're for cantilevers. How about a photo?

Just look at the link. The Canyon Express has a front roller brake.

Yes, I saw the bike in the link, my point is that there's only one length of roller cam brake. If this bike has the original fork, the other possibility is that the rim is an incorrect-sized replacement. Given the spray-bomb description, that's more likely the case.

I was slacking, I'll get a photo tomorrow. Why the difference in the price of the two models, anyone?

Brian

Good thing I didn't place any bets on this. I got the bike with frame, front derailuer, stem and bars(nitto and suntour xc), brakes(front and back roller cam, no levers), and a front wheel(no tires or rear wheel). And yep, the mounted front wheel was a 700c, never even looked at the size, just took the wheel out and and put the frame in the in the future project area(aka jammed full side of my 2 car garage). I had non-through hole that I sold awhile ago, and I was thinking it must be the one I needed, even though the catalog clearly shows otherwise.
The pic of brake/wheel is with the correct size one, perfect match.

Well, thanks all for the input......Heres a few pics of what I do have, just so you'll know this wasn't some bs thread!!!!
BTW the frame is butted Ishawatta, different than the spec in the catalog for 86, probably an earlier build.

Brian

Glad you got to the bottom of it! I mentioned the incorrect rim as a possibility because I recalled a Specialized hybrid that I picked up a while ago. Braking was pretty exciting like this:



Just an FYI - if you'd like to have a spare set of brakes, you can still get the later model of brakes (XC Sport) from bikestash.