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Old 06-07-12 | 11:14 AM
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I will add my vote for the dog. You can find plenty of medium sized to big, loyal, friendly dogs at the pound. All they really need to do is bark, they don't really need to attack. Most thieves will not enter a house with barking dog(s), especially if they sound even remotely big/ferocious. I would not strongly argue against a pit, I have owned more than a few, but they can be a challenge and you never know how they have been trained/socialized if you get one from the pound. We have never had a break in and I never worry because we have always owned three or more dogs, at one time we had a Great Dane, a Bull Mastiff, two Pitbulls and a Bassett Hound. The hound's baying would paralyze them while the other dogs would rip them to shreds But the Pitbulls never really got along with each other very well and that was a challenge. All were rescues or shelter dogs.
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Old 06-07-12 | 11:17 AM
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Sorry to hear this..... maybe this means Karma will turn and your next bike find will be most spectacular yet.

I sometimes wonder if small yappy dogs are better.....they don't scare people but the make a lot of noise and that alone might help..... the dog experts can comment..... but that is my observation from dogs in my hood.
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Old 06-07-12 | 11:21 AM
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As someone who has rescued more than a few dogs, I just want to point out the obvious....

Please consider the acquisition of a dog very carefully, and walk into it with your eyes open. They require a high level of care and commitment, and need human interaction. A lot of folks go into it without considering all of the ramifications, and the dog they initially thought was a great idea gets left alone, gets into mischief, and gets thrown out. Very few of those that are given up find homes.... most are destroyed.

Not trying to lecture you or insult you, just advocating for the dogs of the world. I like dogs more than I like most people.

Oh, yeah.... one more thing. When I was a consultant, not backing up client deliverables was a hanging offense.
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Old 06-07-12 | 11:24 AM
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Get a shepard. Here's what they look like when they yawn.
Goes nuts everytime the doorbell rings or someones knocks.
Loves the kids - my daughter used to ride him like a pony and fold his ears inside themselves.
Will probably eat the cats.
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Old 06-07-12 | 11:26 AM
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Rhodesian Ridgebacks are large, protective, yet loving dogs. Might be an option. My family had two German Shepherds when I was growing up (one that was rejected from a seeing eye dog school b/c it got too big to fit under a bus seat). Great dogs but it always breaks my heart to see them struggling with their nearly inevitable hip problems. You may also splurge on a Labradoodle--big enough to be intimidating, friendly like a lab, and smart like a poodle, plus no shedding! Here's our labradoodle, Argus, who barks at the slightest sound (though he's 3/4 lab and sheds).

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Old 06-07-12 | 11:27 AM
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I did back up! I backed up so recently that it was near the lap top

We owned a dog for a few years. We know what we're in for (and no, we didn't abandon him).
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Old 06-07-12 | 11:45 AM
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Sorry to hear about this, Aaron. You seem to be taking it well, with a sense of humor and a sense of how fortunate you are that onky some material posessions were lost. I think that that says a lot about what kind of person you are.

If you get a German Shepherd, try to avoid a purebred. Like someone else mentioned, they typically have debilitating hip problems later in their (relatively short) life and are generally pretty neurotic. We've had several, and they are amazing dogs if they are treated well and given space to run. Loyal like you wouldn't believe and smarter than most people. When I grow up and have a house and space, I will get some sort of rescue German/Australlian Shepherd mix.

Oh and our shepherds liked our cats, fwiw.
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Old 06-07-12 | 12:26 PM
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Old 06-07-12 | 12:32 PM
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When it rains it pours. I woke up at 2am to find two men in our house. I screamed "Lori (my wife), get the gun!" (no we don't have a gun), and they bolted. I've been sleeping on the first floor because of the broken leg...and I have no idea how I didn't wake up when they pushed our A/C in. Anyway, they stole our TV, a Wii, about $800 in cash, our wallets (have a lot of canceling/reordering to do!) and, worst of all, my work laptop. Worst of all because I have years of irreplaceable work on there.

BUT...they passed right over the Sachs tourer, the Vanilla and the Titanio. THANK HEAVENS.
Holy crap, Aaron! So glad you are OK. That's terrible about your computer. I would perish in flames if that happened to me!
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Old 06-07-12 | 12:33 PM
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Old 06-07-12 | 12:41 PM
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Get a shepard. Here's what they look like when they yawn.
Yep yep. Definitely intimidating choppers.



But he can be sweet when he wants to.



But mostly just a couch potato,



and a bed hog



By the way... that's the way he usually sleeps: With one ear up. And if there are any funny noises, you'll see the ear moving around. Then it relaxes again or... he decides he needs to investigate and he'll get up. That guard dog instinct.

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If you get a German Shepherd, try to avoid a purebred... Loyal like you wouldn't believe and smarter than most people.
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Old 06-07-12 | 12:43 PM
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I'd vote dog over gun: a gun won't deter an intruder unless you are there to brandish it, (and be prepared to use it). A good dog will bark when they break in, whether you're there or not, and probably scare 'em off, avoiding a potentially dangerous confrontation.

And I've posted this before, but I recommend everyone take good digital pics of, and write down serial numbers of bikes, guitars, computers, etc. Then put 'em on the web, in a dropbox account, or just email them to yourself. Valuables are replaceable, and having good digital records gives you a far better chance at either recovery, or a successful insurance claim after a burglary or fire.

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Old 06-07-12 | 12:51 PM
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This thread makes me want to leave work early and head home,
and install a video camera feed to the internet so I can check things out remotely,
and change all the locks in the house.

I has a Chessie (Chesapeake Bay Retriever) back before I got married. The landlord of a house I was renting once came in while I was still im bed, dog placed himself in the bedroom doorway and barked and growled until the landlord left after he fixed the stove. The Chessie never attacked and never left the doorway, I suspect the story would be different if the landlord had tried to go anywhere except the kitchen. He weighed in at about 110 Lbs.

We have two dogs now, one is going blind in one eye and barks at any abnormal sounds, and at most normal sounds late at night. The little dogs catches the stuff the bigger one misses. If both dogs start barking at night then I go into action. You'd be amazed at what a pedal wrench can do.

Glad things weren't worse.
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Old 06-07-12 | 12:57 PM
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I'd vote dog over gun: a gun won't deter an intruder unless you are there to brandish it, (and be prepared to use it). A good dog will bark when they break in, whether you're there or not, and probably scare 'em off, avoiding a potentially dangerous confrontation.

And I've posted this before, but I recommend everyone take good digital pics of, and write down serial numbers of bikes, guitars, computers, etc. Then put 'em on the web, in a dropbox account, or just email them to yourself. Valuables are replaceable, and having good digital records gives you a far better chance at either recovery, or a successful insurance claim after a burglary or fire.

Best of luck recovering your stuff.
An intruder also can't wrestle your dog away from you and use it against you.
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Old 06-07-12 | 01:04 PM
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Sorry to read about your misfortune and ordeal. I feel for you to have one's home security violated.
It was fast thinking to shout out something to scare them out of there. But be warned, if they now think you have firearms in the house, they may wait you out to return when the house is empty to steal that too. Very $$$ on the streets of Phily.

The pushing in the AC from the wall is an old burglar's method of entry. Learned that a long time ago in NYC.

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This thread makes me want to leave work early and head home,
and install a video camera feed to the internet so I can check things out remotely
Do it.

There are lots of scumbags out there. I currently have two wireless IP cameras running (Sharx), both motion activated, and one has infrared night vision. When motion trips them, it sends an email with picture to a gmail account for every second of movement it records. If I need the video feed, I log into the cameras SD card and download it. Very long story short, I got them for a reason, and they have paid off. I was able to use the footage to press felony charges and receive restitution for a crime against me. I need to move...
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A shepherd X can do well. Mine has a nasty bark and growl, but then goes and curls up to sleep with the 3 cats.



I'd vote dog over gun: a gun won't deter an intruder unless you are there to brandish it, (and be prepared to use it). A good dog will bark when they break in, whether you're there or not, and probably scare 'em off, avoiding a potentially dangerous confrontation.
+1 A dog would probably prevent it from being considered in the first place. All they have to do is bark in order to draw attention. Even little ones have their uses.

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I'm hoping you all work through this episode ok, and can prevent another.

I got my house and garage rummaged by burglars in L.A. in '96, but they didn't get the bikes. I think they were planning to come back for a 2nd haul, but they must have gotten spooked. No, I didn't have insurance.

Glad you're both ok.

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I have 2 rescued labs & 2 rescued cats. All get along just fine. The labs are super nice but sound like they will tear you apart when someone shows up outside. I have had more than one person remark at how fierce they SOUND. Good luck!
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I suspect the story would be different if the landlord had tried to go anywhere except the kitchen. He weighed in at about 110 Lbs.
So your landlord wasn't a very big man, eh?
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Aaron. forgot to say sorry for the misfortune. I can sympathize.

One note on shepards - the white ones are not bred to have sloping hips - no hip problems.
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Agree on the dog, but listen to BigBossman's comments. Agree on passing on the pit or other breeds 'known to be' aggressive if you're getting from a rescue. While there are lots of great pits and dobermans and the like, I like the idea of a boxer, lab, or other breed with more bark than bite. Most robberies are crimes of opportunity, like someone else said, just having a dog that will make noise will usually send a crew on to another house over yours.

As far as future backup goes, perhaps it's time for SkyDrive or something of the like? I'm getting ready to move my external to be hooked up to the router, and I'll probably hide it behind the file cabinet or something.
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I'd say go with a burmese mountain dog. Those suckers will just sit on a burglar and that'll be that. Well until you have to clean up the pulpy mess when the dog gets up to go out for a walk later on.
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Damn Aaron! Now I am sorry I joked about stealing your bikes in another thread!

Gotta love the 'City of Brotherly Love'. Had my car stolen twice and its stereo faceplate three times when I lived there 1996-97.

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Glad to hear you and your wife are OK, there is nothing that can replace either of you. There is nothing more insidious than a common thief. They steal more than material possessions, they steal your peace of mind and security.
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