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Old 08-14-14, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
So I've been considering converting my 1992 Specialized Hardrock to drop bars. It's got Shimano Indexed 7 speed Rapid Fire below the bar shifters which work great. Trying to figure out my shifting options. Looks like I could either: 1. get 7 speed grifters from auction site, etc. OR 2. Use friction bar end shifters. I know that Shimano makes bar end shifters, but don't go to 7 speed.
One option is a set of the seven speed Tourney trigger shifters. They cost $17 for a set of shifters, all cables and housings. I use them on all mtb projects where I am not using bar cons. Friction front, indexed rear, which is perfect IMHO. They have a steel metal band, so with a longer screw, you should be able to encourage them to fit larger diameter road bars. They also come in a six speed version.

Of course, those 8 speed bar ends are sweet and would work.


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Instant any speed Shimano or almost anything bar end shifters. I know I have bought this setup at least once, maybe twice? You just need the levers, and these two items. And down tube adjusters if it's a road bike of course. I believe Shimano 6/7/8 speed shifters will work with any 6-8speed indexed derailleur(except Dura Ace of course), and I've even put a Shimano shifter on a Suntour indexed derailleur once, and it worked perfectly. I don't know if I just got lucky, but it worked.,,,,BD


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@wor101 - oh yes, I forgot about those. Could be an option. Thanks.
@Bikedued - that's what I did with the Shimano down tube shifters on my Moto GJ that the PO had "upgraded" to Shimano. It now has bar end shifters just like you recommend. Now you've got me thinking.
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There are also a bunch of 7 speed DT shifters on the bay, and they're affordable as well.


7 speed bar ends, on my 92ish M500. They may even be the same pods, but with a set of NOS levers I got from the bin at the bike shop in Lake Charles. Still in the package before they went on this bike.,,,,BD


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Wow. Between you guys, Craigslist, and eBay, I don't stand a chance, do I? I'd better start budgeting for this stuff.

Really, I should thank y'all. I've been skulking about in here and using Bikeforums as an online encyclopedia of cycling knowledge. I bought a bike today. I'm pretty sure I did OK on the deal (don't feel ripped-off, anyway). I think I got a solid ride that should last me a long, long time. If it weren't for y'all I wouldn't have thought to look for cracked frames, play in the bottom bracket spindle, play in the steering tube. Everything that was supposed to move on the bike did move - freely, and nothing felt odd or "crunchy".

I think I did OK. I'm excited about it, actually.

Thanks a bunch, fellahs! Sincerely. This thread was the inspiration for what I've got in mind for a do-it-all daily rider.

The bike is an 80's (dunno exact year) Peugeot Orient Express. I'm impressed w/ the frame. It fits great. Tange chrome moly. IIRC it's straight gauge. Lots of rake, long chainstays, plenty of braze-ons. The derailleurs (friction front, indexed rear) are Shimano Exage Trail, as are the cranks and the brake levers. Six speed cassette.

There's a "Made in Taiwan" sticker on the seat tube. I had read that Peugeot MTBs were Asian-made. I have no idea who made it, but I'm keen to find out.

Here are a couple of pictures. They look kinda bad. I never got the hang of holding a cell phone steady enough at arms length to take a good quality still shot. But you can at least see what kind of geometry it has.

EDIT: Grrr. Having trouble getting my uploading technique right w/ this site. Here's an imgur.com album:

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Pretty sure the "Orient Express" is an early hybrid, city bike, Skippy. I bought a new 1986 Peugeot City Express. Was a 12 speed friction. That model went to a index shift, triple crank set the next year. Mine lasted 17 years, until I broke the frame. Seems the 26" size wheel hybrid bike has gone out of favor somewhat. chris
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Originally Posted by TireLever-07
Pretty sure the "Orient Express" is an early hybrid, city bike, Skippy. I bought a new 1986 Peugeot City Express. Was a 12 speed friction. That model went to a index shift, triple crank set the next year. Mine lasted 17 years, until I broke the frame. Seems the 26" size wheel hybrid bike has gone out of favor somewhat. chris
You might be right. I have looked at some old catalogs online and saw that Peugeot listed the canyon express and the Orient express as all terrain bikes and the city express as a city bike. There were of course differences in equipment, but from what I could see they had the same geometry.

I dunno. Can't find the exact catalog that lists my bike. Pretty sure it was made between 87 and 89.

Either way, looks like it will make one heckuva commuter.

EDIT: found the catalog. It's an 88.

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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
@wor101 - oh yes, I forgot about those. Could be an option. Thanks.
@Bikedued - that's what I did with the Shimano down tube shifters on my Moto GJ that the PO had "upgraded" to Shimano. It now has bar end shifters just like you recommend. Now you've got me thinking.
Or Shifters - Gevenalle I use these Retroshift shifter-on-brake-lever on my daily commute bike which is a dropbar road bike. Work great, easy to shift, considering that most of us ride on the hoods more than we ride in the drops. When on the hoods, the shift levers are right under one's fingers. Personal preference, but I actually don't like bar-end shifters that much, because my knee can hit the shifter, when climbing hard or sprinting out of the saddle and also sometimes when carelessly dismounting.
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@jyl - probably the way I'd go. Just want to make sure the pull amount works nicely with 7 speed freewheel.
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The mount will accept any standard downtube shifter with a flat base. So if you have Shimano compatible derailleur you'd use Shimano compatible shifters, etc. They sell the levers with a Shimano shifter or "bare". It is a local Portland company.
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I've never hit my knee on a bar end shifter, ever. At least half of my bikes have them. Those are pretty cool shifters though.


LOVE the Express bikes. Here's my Urban Express. It may someday get drops and bar ends, but it's pretty cool as is. Thinking about an alloy riser bar instead of drops, although it would be pretty sweet converted. It needs skinwall tires in the worst possible way. Got to love a lugged ATB.,,,,BD

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There's one of those Urban Expresses in the same color on CL right now, I thought about picking it up and putting Town and Country tires on it...it would be identical do what you've got there. Hmmmm...
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Originally Posted by Bikedued
I've never hit my knee on a bar end shifter, ever. At least half of my bikes have them. Those are pretty cool shifters though.
I have barcons on my Fuji. I like those shifters. I plan on the same thing for my Peugeot.


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LOVE the Express bikes. Here's my Urban Express. It may someday get drops and bar ends, but it's pretty cool as is. Thinking about an alloy riser bar instead of drops, although it would be pretty sweet converted. It needs skinwall tires in the worst possible way. Got to love a lugged ATB.,,,,BD

That's a might pretty Peugeot. It's earlier than mine. My forks don't look like that. They look like a standard MTB rigid fork. Unicrown.

Honestly, the only lug I can see on my bike sits atop the seat tube. Everything else looks TIG welded. The page from the '88 brochure says that the frame was TIG welded. There's a sticker down by the bottom bracket that says "Made in Taiwan". I suspect Peugeot whistled up a run of X number of MTBs (or frames) from someone's factory and had Peugeot stickers applied to the bike.

I would like to know who actually made the bike (Giant?), out of curiosity, mostly. I'd be pleasantly surprised to actually find out.

I never owned a MTB before. Right now I'm just cleaning it up and doing maintenance. Once that's done I aim to ride it for a bit and identify that which needs changing. However, long term, the plan is something like this:



I would have preferred a lugged frame, but they don't pop up on CL very much around here. At least not MTB frames. I'm leaning towards the "poor man's Sam Hillbourne" look.

EDIT: I'm also kicking around the possibility of putting on butterfly bars and a Brooks B17 - doing the "expedition bike" thing.
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The seat tube top lug hung a lot longer than the other lugs on atb's and mtb's. It was a common thing among MANY frame builders during the late eighties and early nineties. I have seen a LOT of frames like that, from low end to high end.,,,,BD
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My 1986 Orient Express has Made in Japan and Tange ATB stickers and a chainstay brake. It's a mountain bike, not a hybrid. The color is metallic black.
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Originally Posted by cobrabyte
Cleaned up my Rockhopper the other day. I've got some stainless steel 26" Berthoud fenders in the garage that I've been toying around with the idea of installing.

Specialized Rockhopper by (cobrabyte), on Flickr
I have that same year Rockhopper. The geometry is actually better for an all a rounder than a Stumpjumper.
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Saw a couple other Peugeot MTB's. Here's the current config of my Orient Express.

It's the 86 model with the under the chainstay mounted rear brake which I do not have mounted.
I think the next year they went back to a top mount rear canti.

It is wide enough at the rear stays to swallow 26x2.3" tires with plenty of clearance.

It is a fun bike. Heavy but rides nicely for urban cruising.
I have some cable housing & a saddle I am going to switch to that I think will match up with the over all color scheme.



I am running it a 1x7 gear set up for now with indexed shifting.
That's a Dura Ace crank with a 42t ring.
Works great for my area terrain.






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I *wish* that was mine. Sadly, its just a reference picture I dug up on a Google image search. My High Plains will have to do until I find my lugged, bi-plane crown beauty in the biggest size possible.
If you are still interested, all this time later, that is a bike that I built up, a few years ago. It ha a Nitto front rack, and the original Specialized Dirt Drop stem (as i recall, it might be a Nitto), with Mustache bars. I was basically emulating the Bridgestone XO-1/Rivendell AllRounder...
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Originally Posted by interceptorjg
If you are still interested, all this time later, that is a bike that I built up, a few years ago. It ha a Nitto front rack, and the original Specialized Dirt Drop stem (as i recall, it might be a Nitto), with Mustache bars. I was basically emulating the Bridgestone XO-1/Rivendell AllRounder...
Hah! No kidding. Want to trade for a Bridgestone 600?
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Hah! No kidding. Want to trade for a Bridgestone 600?
I actually sold it, quite a while ago. That photo is from the eBay listing. It was an 88 Stumpy, powder coated orange. I ran 650b wheels, with knobbies, on it (but sold it with 26" mtb wheels).

I currently have a 1986 MB-1, rattle-canned orange (eventually to be powdered ... maybe), built up in the same style with Campy 8-speed Ergo, Campy derailleurs, and a Racing Triple crank, with the 650b wheels. I'll post a picture, or two, if you are interested.
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Originally Posted by arex
Is anyone changing the gearing on these conversions to something more road-like, or are you all leaving the gears as-is?
Not quite a MTB but my '94 Trek 750 has a 42/34/24 triple which I intend to swap out for more road-like gears. Unfortunately it's 96 BCD (I just measured to be sure) and aftermarket chainrings don't exist as far as I can tell. I plan to make this a gravel/winter bike with drop bars so I'll probably go with a compact double so I can still attack the steeper hills on my local gravel roads.

Anyone else dealt with the 96 BCD issue?
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Originally Posted by ksryder
Not quite a MTB but my '94 Trek 750 has a 42/34/24 triple which I intend to swap out for more road-like gears. Unfortunately it's 96 BCD (I just measured to be sure) and aftermarket chainrings don't exist as far as I can tell. I plan to make this a gravel/winter bike with drop bars so I'll probably go with a compact double so I can still attack the steeper hills on my local gravel roads.

Anyone else dealt with the 96 BCD issue?
I know I some for sale somewhere recently... I'll try to remember where for you.
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