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Old 06-29-12 | 02:04 PM
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The front brake is a "Royal Gran Compe 500". The pump braze-on is for sure an oddball and pretty distinct. Does anyone know if getting cantilever bosses brazed-on is an option?
It would be a real shame to do that to this bike and completely unnecessary.

Edit: Does the bike have fork tab reinforcements? Does the BB shell have a name stamped on it? Details like this will help ID the bike.

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Old 06-29-12 | 02:15 PM
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bikemig- Your bike looks very similar to mine, we even have the same seat. What seatpost do you have? I'm a bit of a newbie, fork tab reinforcements? The bb shell only has a serial number stamped on it. I plan on doing a little bit of work on it today and hopefully I can discover something. I can post more pictures if necessary.

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Old 06-29-12 | 02:55 PM
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bikemig- Your bike looks very similar to mine, we even have the same seat. What seatpost do you have? I'm a bit of a newbie, fork tab reinforcements? The bb shell only has a serial number stamped on it. I plan on doing a little bit of work on it today and hopefully I can discover something. I can post more pictures if necessary.
Similar parts don't really say much about the bike. The serial no. may tell you something about the bike. Look on the inside of the fork. Do you see some sort of tab? If there is one, post a pic. High quality bikes often have a tab. Also a pic of the fork crown would be helpful. Look at the bottom bracket shell and see if it says anything besides the serial no. Also pics of the cable runs on the BB shell would be useful. At the end of the day, you may not be able to ID this bike accurately but it is a fine machine. Fix it up and ride it; it will treat you well for many, many years.
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Old 06-29-12 | 04:39 PM
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Did you find any useful info stamped on the seatpost or steerer?

Wonder if anyone here recognizes this detail on the brake bridge:



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Old 06-29-12 | 10:39 PM
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the brake bridge is either a Cinelli or a Gipiemme copy that was almost identical...sometimes the GPM has that stamped on the underside.
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Old 06-29-12 | 10:43 PM
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Maybe it was "made for a Zefal" but I would bet that a properly sized Silca would work on that peg, too.
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Old 06-30-12 | 01:05 AM
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Maybe it was "made for a Zefal" but I would bet that a properly sized Silca would work on that peg, too.
Sure; you wouldn't need a pump peg part down the top tube for a silca though since it came in sizes. In any case, the zefal hp was a better pump than a silca impero.
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Hijack alert:
If you use the later Silca Impero "frame-fit" with the contour end handle:
you only need a nub on the backside of the headtube to mount the pump securely under the TT...and these came in more sizes to fit more of a variety of frames, compared to the earlier Silca Impero with the "classic" handle:
Many folks preferred the classic handle over the frame-fit and most of them bought the size that was "small enough" and used an "umbrella clip" clamped to the seat or top tube, but since the classic handle also has a grommet in the end you could use a peg (clamp-on or brazed-on) instead of an umbrella.
As far as which pump is superior: I own both Silcas (both handle styles) and Zefals (many models) and I like them both (and hate them both) for different reasons.
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Old 06-30-12 | 12:06 PM
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OP - my apologies for posting a second time without contributing anything substantial on this second post, but I really like that frame. Higher quality Japanese touring frame (maybe Ishiwata?) with Campy/?Italian frame bits really appeals to me, you can make this into a beautiful bike. Anyone else have something like this for sale in a 56-60cm ?

your bike, and as you can see - the welds are really top-notch


my Maruishi BRC Aerolite Tri custom build - not quite the same lug but really close - mine is probably 1988-91, leaning towards the earlier date from the date codes on the original Exage components, but the "shoreline" is not as clean - good but not right on like yours, maybe mine was made after the company karaoke night!


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Old 06-30-12 | 01:30 PM
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Tuc- Don't apologize! I appreciate anyone and everyone's input. What does the serial number of your bike look like? Also that is a great comparison photo, do you have any more pictures of your bike? +1 for the karaoke night

To everyone- Yesterday I looked on the steerer tube and found the same serial number stamped on with flecks of the matching blue paint. So the fork is definitely original.
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Old 06-30-12 | 02:46 PM
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Tuc- Don't apologize! I appreciate anyone and everyone's input. What does the serial number of your bike look like? Also that is a great comparison photo, do you have any more pictures of your bike? +1 for the karaoke night

To everyone- Yesterday I looked on the steerer tube and found the same serial number stamped on with flecks of the matching blue paint. So the fork is definitely original.
HN7998(x) on the side of the seattube

pic of the dropout, no reason to think they are Campy,... but they are most likely Tange like the front fork.


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I got a crankset from a friend, however I will be needing some new chainrings. I had no clue they were so friggin' expensive. Any suggestions for a touring setup?
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Not sure if anyone is still following this but I found some more stampings, Found "gipiemme mod (something)" stamped on the brake bridge. I couldn't make out the last word.
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Originally Posted by SirGustaf
I got a crankset from a friend, however I will be needing some new chainrings. I had no clue they were so friggin' expensive. Any suggestions for a touring setup?
It might be cheaper to buy a crank with rings. Nashbar has the FSA gossamer road triple at $99 complete with BB: https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...2_534510_-1___. I don't need a triple but I've been tempted to pick one up.
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Old 07-11-12 | 09:13 PM
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