Information re: Mavic Componentry
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Information re: Mavic Componentry
Hi,
Can anyone help me find a resource regarding early 90s/late 80s Mavic componentry?
I have some parts, and wish to classify them.
I also have some I want to sell, and am trying to work out how to describe them.
The Mavic website is pretty useless.
Ta!
Can anyone help me find a resource regarding early 90s/late 80s Mavic componentry?
I have some parts, and wish to classify them.
I also have some I want to sell, and am trying to work out how to describe them.
The Mavic website is pretty useless.
Ta!
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MAVIC started out manufacturing mudguards and became legend when they introduced the first aluminum rim in 1926. Synonymous with rim manufacturer, they introduced a complimentary cartridge bearing hub in 1977. By 1979 there was a complete group. The group went through several evoluntionary developments with the ultimate being the ZMS electronic shifting system in 1993. In order to determine exactly what you have, pictures will be required.
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From: n.w. superdrome
Bikes: 1 trek, serotta, rih, de Reus, Pogliaghi and finally a Zieleman! and got a DeRosa
Are you talking about the Mavic erector set type components (SSC)?
(see below for derailler pic). I think they were a very underated
gruppo. I believe that Greg Lemond won on of his 3 TdFs using
the Mavic gruppo. Although Mavic gruppos contained brakes,
they did not manufacture them, I believe all mavic brakes were
manufactured by Modolo.
Marty
(thanks to Classic Rendezvous for use of their photo)
(see below for derailler pic). I think they were a very underated
gruppo. I believe that Greg Lemond won on of his 3 TdFs using
the Mavic gruppo. Although Mavic gruppos contained brakes,
they did not manufacture them, I believe all mavic brakes were
manufactured by Modolo.
Marty
(thanks to Classic Rendezvous for use of their photo)
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As an afterthought, there is some stratification that can be done without photos;
1. Is the shifting friction, indexed or electronic?
2. Is the derailleur a vertical or horizontal parllelogram?
3. Are the hubs freewheel or freehub style?
4. How many cogs if freehub?
5. Traditional chainring mounting or do both chainrings mount to the inside of the spider?
6. Brake cable barrel adjusters on the top of the calipers or mounted inside the caliper?
7. Does the headset have a standard hexagonal locknut, a grooved locknut or a locknut with four flat locknut with a 2.5mm Allen screw for adjustment?
1. Is the shifting friction, indexed or electronic?
2. Is the derailleur a vertical or horizontal parllelogram?
3. Are the hubs freewheel or freehub style?
4. How many cogs if freehub?
5. Traditional chainring mounting or do both chainrings mount to the inside of the spider?
6. Brake cable barrel adjusters on the top of the calipers or mounted inside the caliper?
7. Does the headset have a standard hexagonal locknut, a grooved locknut or a locknut with four flat locknut with a 2.5mm Allen screw for adjustment?
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
As an afterthought, there is some stratification that can be done without photos;
1. Is the shifting friction, indexed or electronic?
2. Is the derailleur a vertical or horizontal parllelogram?
3. Are the hubs freewheel or freehub style?
4. How many cogs if freehub?
5. Traditional chainring mounting or do both chainrings mount to the inside of the spider?
6. Brake cable barrel adjusters on the top of the calipers or mounted inside the caliper?
7. Does the headset have a standard hexagonal locknut, a grooved locknut or a locknut with four flat locknut with a 2.5mm Allen screw for adjustment?
1. Is the shifting friction, indexed or electronic?
2. Is the derailleur a vertical or horizontal parllelogram?
3. Are the hubs freewheel or freehub style?
4. How many cogs if freehub?
5. Traditional chainring mounting or do both chainrings mount to the inside of the spider?
6. Brake cable barrel adjusters on the top of the calipers or mounted inside the caliper?
7. Does the headset have a standard hexagonal locknut, a grooved locknut or a locknut with four flat locknut with a 2.5mm Allen screw for adjustment?
I have the rear derailler as posted above, as well as a clamp on derailler of similar build for the front. I have the big fat mavic cranks, and a pair of Simplex gear levers (The rear Mavic ones were Black. I have the later Mavic (silver) sidepull brakes (yep think they were made by Modolo - but not as common as the ones seen on Ebay all the time). Derailler's and Shifters are about 89/90 vintage, and cranks and brakes about 91/92.
Looking for:
Brake Levers (early 90s Modolo would do fine)
Headset (the one with the allen key locking mechanism)
Hubset (whatever - they are all pretty mcuh the same)
I agree, it is definately and underrated groupset.
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Not all that worried about a complete groupset of EXACTLY the same vintage, but do want all Mavic.
BB is of little concern, but if a Mavic one turns up, I'll take it.
I also have a NOS Mavic clamp on front derailler - all silver though - I think mid/early 80s. I am trying to ascertain if it is of value?
BB is of little concern, but if a Mavic one turns up, I'll take it.
I also have a NOS Mavic clamp on front derailler - all silver though - I think mid/early 80s. I am trying to ascertain if it is of value?
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The fat MAVIC crankset, with the chainrings mounting to the backside of the spider, is the model 631.
The rear derailleur is from the 850 series, but my literature indicates there were at least a couple versions, the 850 and the 851. The matching, retrofriction shift levers were the model 820. FYI, the matching font deraileur is the 860 series. Again, there appears to have been at least a couple of versions.
The mid and late 1980s black brakes were the model 430. The silver brakes with the barrel adjuster nestled in the slot in the caliper are the model 451. However, there was also an interim silver model with a the barrel adjuster on top of the arms. I have been unable to determine the model number.
The headset with the Allen srcrew was the model 805.
One word of caution with MAVIC bottom bracket. It does not thread into the bottom bracket shell. The shell faces must be chamfered to match the bevel on the inside of the adjustable lockrings that are used on both ends. The locknuts hold the unit in place laterally, providing some adjustment to the chainline, while the bevel ensures concentricity with the shell. MAVIC sold a special tool to chamfer the shell which may be hard to find, unless there is a LBS that used to carry the bottom brackets. However, any machine shop should be able to do this after measuring the bevel on the locknuts.
The rear derailleur is from the 850 series, but my literature indicates there were at least a couple versions, the 850 and the 851. The matching, retrofriction shift levers were the model 820. FYI, the matching font deraileur is the 860 series. Again, there appears to have been at least a couple of versions.
The mid and late 1980s black brakes were the model 430. The silver brakes with the barrel adjuster nestled in the slot in the caliper are the model 451. However, there was also an interim silver model with a the barrel adjuster on top of the arms. I have been unable to determine the model number.
The headset with the Allen srcrew was the model 805.
One word of caution with MAVIC bottom bracket. It does not thread into the bottom bracket shell. The shell faces must be chamfered to match the bevel on the inside of the adjustable lockrings that are used on both ends. The locknuts hold the unit in place laterally, providing some adjustment to the chainline, while the bevel ensures concentricity with the shell. MAVIC sold a special tool to chamfer the shell which may be hard to find, unless there is a LBS that used to carry the bottom brackets. However, any machine shop should be able to do this after measuring the bevel on the locknuts.
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From: n.w. superdrome
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I believe that Renassaince Cycles has Mavic levers (and a collection
of modolo levers) from that period. The only problem is that
Baron is in the process of moving his operation so it might take a while to
get them. I've seen the modolo/mavic levers on ebay occaisionally.
Marty
of modolo levers) from that period. The only problem is that
Baron is in the process of moving his operation so it might take a while to
get them. I've seen the modolo/mavic levers on ebay occaisionally.
Marty
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I also have some I want to sell, and am trying to work out how to describe them.
shoot me some pics. I'm hunting for Mavic stuff for my early 80's Vitus.
Cheers!
-SJ
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
One word of caution with MAVIC bottom bracket. It does not thread into the bottom bracket shell. The shell faces must be chamfered to match the bevel on the inside of the adjustable lockrings that are used on both ends. The locknuts hold the unit in place laterally, providing some adjustment to the chainline, while the bevel ensures concentricity with the shell. MAVIC sold a special tool to chamfer the shell which may be hard to find, unless there is a LBS that used to carry the bottom brackets. However, any machine shop should be able to do this after measuring the bevel on the locknuts.




