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Old 07-06-12, 10:04 AM
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Got £2000? You can buy a new Raleigh Team Pro!

Well, at least a replica.

Shame they could not use 653 or something more exotic. Like the touches of the retro Cinelli bar and stem. They could have done much worse.
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Old 07-06-12, 10:27 AM
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That looks quite nice actually. It's certainly a more sympathetic parts spec than the Stumpjumper Classic with its awful XT cranks...
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Old 07-06-12, 10:28 AM
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Looks pretty good. Though, I think Ergos look terrible (and uncomfortable) on bars with a classic bend like that. Was this pic taken with the hoods rolled up? Fail.
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Originally Posted by CV-6 View Post
Well, at least a replica.

Shame they could not use 653 or something more exotic. Like the touches of the retro Cinelli bar and stem. They could have done much worse.
Agreed on the frame material.

The Cinelli bars and stem do look good with the Ergos!

Probably not so comfy if you ride the hoods, but fine otherwise.

I usually don't care for Raleighs whatsoever, but that one looks pretty good.
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Old 07-06-12, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gomango View Post
Probably not so comfy if you ride the hoods, but fine otherwise.
Who (besides Robbietunes) doesn't ride on the hoods with Ergos? That's the whole point of the design, no?
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2000 pounds for that?!....I dunno, one can find a lot of just as nice or nicer REAL C&V steel bikes for a lot less money. No thanks!

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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
Who (besides Robbietunes) doesn't ride on the hoods with Ergos? That's the whole point of the design, no?
If you choose to ride them that way.

50/50 for me.

Hoods in town, drops on the open road when we open it up.

I am riding Noodles almost exclusively on any of the bikes that get real miles.

Those happen to work quite well with Ergos, yet I still like the long ramps for various hand positions.

Most of the guys I ride with use Ergos even with classic bend bars.

They almost all ride the drops.

Quick b group at this point!
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I don't ride the hoods exclusively either. But, if you ride the hoods 5% of the time, then you ride the hoods. Of course it's up to the rider to ride how they want, but I don't think it's debatable that the hood shape is designed for your hand. In fact there are two nice hand positions on the hoods. Guys who ride the latest generation of Ergos with those classic, Cinelli bends must have small hands. There's not enough real estate for my paws in the photo of that Raleigh.
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Seems absurdly overpriced to me.
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There is nothing wrong with the Reynold's 525 frame... except that it isn't 531C.

Would be nice to be able to just get the frame and fork and build it up with the right vintage parts or parts of one's choosing.
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There is nothing wrong with the Reynold's 525 frame... except that it isn't 531C.

Would be nice to be able to just get the frame and fork and build it up with the right vintage parts or parts of one's choosing.
To me, 525 just does not have the appeal of 531C, 753, 653, etc. Especially at that price point.
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
I don't ride the hoods exclusively either. But, if you ride the hoods 5% of the time, then you ride the hoods. Of course it's up to the rider to ride how they want, but I don't think it's debatable that the hood shape is designed for your hand. In fact there are two nice hand positions on the hoods. Guys who ride the latest generation of Ergos with those classic, Cinelli bends must have small hands. There's not enough real estate for my paws in the photo of that Raleigh.
Maybe that's why my wife loves the Ergos on her De Rosa.

I generally don't analyze this stuff very deeply though.

I really couldn't care less about these types of things, I just know what works for me.

I happen to have hams for hands.

Everybody gives me the business about it!

Maybe that's why I like Noodles so much.

Bike fit and ergonomics, as well as politics, are areas I don't chat about on forums very much at all.
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Originally Posted by jon c. View Post
Seems absurdly overpriced to me.
Consider that the frame and fork are probably worth $1000.00 and that a small production runs probably means there is more hand work involved than with a mass produced tig welded frame... this will add to the final cost.
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
I don't ride the hoods exclusively either. But, if you ride the hoods 5% of the time, then you ride the hoods. Of course it's up to the rider to ride how they want, but I don't think it's debatable that the hood shape is designed for your hand. In fact there are two nice hand positions on the hoods. Guys who ride the latest generation of Ergos with those classic, Cinelli bends must have small hands. There's not enough real estate for my paws in the photo of that Raleigh.
Wow...I have big, basketball palming hands and I never had problems on the hoods of my V3 Ergos with Cinelli DelMundo bars. I will say that the V2 ergos are a LOT smaller. When I switched to the Chorus V2s to get better quality in a 10 speed, I was pretty pissed at the smaller size.
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Largest size appears to be 54cm.
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Don't the angles look abnormally slack?
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I think it's the ergo's and the lack of Jan Raas or Gerrie Knetemann on it that let it down. Can't you get an original at that price?
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Largest size appears to be 54cm.
Yeah, if I had the money, that would be a dealbreaker for me.
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Seems like a nicer looking version of something from bikesdirect to me... 2000 quid is a lot of money.
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I built a real one for less than that.

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I find vintage Cinelli Campione del Mondo bars sexy. Even sporting Ergos, my hands are all over them

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