Another ID thread. Why do I always get the weird ones?
08-26-12 | 02:26 PM
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Another ID thread. Why do I always get the weird ones?
Got this from a local guy. He knew nothing about it. It feels light but that means nothing at this point.
What I do know...
Frame:
Near vertical rear dropouts w/ adjusters
26.4 or possibly 26.6 seatpost size
English threading and 68mm BB shell
BoCaMa Competition lugs
Internal cable routing on top tube
Fork:
May not be original to frame
BoCaMa fork crown
Campagnolo fork ends
Most likely Reynolds 531 tubing
What I do know...
Frame:
Near vertical rear dropouts w/ adjusters
26.4 or possibly 26.6 seatpost size
English threading and 68mm BB shell
BoCaMa Competition lugs
Internal cable routing on top tube
Fork:
May not be original to frame
BoCaMa fork crown
Campagnolo fork ends
Most likely Reynolds 531 tubing
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08-26-12 | 03:25 PM
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08-27-12 | 08:24 PM
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Check for a tubing logo on the steering tube. Looks high end Japanese to me.
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08-27-12 | 08:28 PM
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09-17-12 | 04:13 PM
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I'll have to look but I think my Bianchi Protos have the same or very similar drops but stamped shipmano.
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09-17-12 | 05:28 PM
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Another ID thread. Why do I always get the weird ones?
Perhaps that should be a lesson to you, young man........
I know, I know; you can't help yourself.
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09-17-12 | 05:50 PM
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I did a trade with a local guy guy t help him out. Needless to say, he didn't help me any. I just want to get out from under it. Tired of looking at it.
Almost looks to be powder-coated, and if so, none too well, but that does look like primer under those paint chips. I wonder how bad it looked before someone made it look bad again? No clue. Could be a Cilo; they often had those lugs.
Another ID thread. Why do I always get the weird ones?
Perhaps that should be a lesson to you, young man........
I know, I know; you can't help yourself.
N+maybe?
Another ID thread. Why do I always get the weird ones?
Perhaps that should be a lesson to you, young man........
I know, I know; you can't help yourself.
N+maybe?
09-17-12 | 06:46 PM
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Chainstays appear to have originally been painted past the bottom bracket shell, from the looks of the roughened-up chrome.
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09-18-12 | 01:16 AM
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09-18-12 | 02:58 AM
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I have a Giuseppi Limongi built frame that has the same end work on the stays. Can we see inside the BB shell? The shot-in junction at the top is not consistent but Pepe built a lot of styles.
09-18-12 | 07:50 AM
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The fish mouth stay ends are kind of a Gitane trademark and it does have French lugs. Just a thought. It's a much later model than I would be familiar with.
09-18-12 | 09:18 AM
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09-18-12 | 09:21 AM
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The rear derailleur hanger on the OP's frame more closely resembles the Gipiemme dropout as well.
09-18-12 | 09:39 AM
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With all due respect, the subject dropouts look more like the Shimano. On the Gipiemme, the thicker portion is restricted to the immediate vincinity of wheel and derailleur mounting areas, while on the Shimano there is a thick web interconnecting the two areas. The OP's droputs clearly have the thicker portion extending between the two areas, similar to the Shimano dropout.
09-18-12 | 09:46 AM
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How coincidental that the replacement fork has a BoCaMa crown.