Thats why I never buy used parts off ebay,saves me alot of greif.Plus I HATE campagnolo.:p

Let me rephrase myself,I hate NR campy:rolleyes:

I feel for you- man that is a lot of dosh for scrap metal.

Id be madder then a hornet about it.

I got duped 2 x with ebay.

1. A outboard motor- 100 +40 shipping, when it arrived the piston was siezed in the cylinder.
the advert said good condition, I told him what I got and said i want to return it.
we made a deal that I get 100 back, keep it, and get it for 40 for parts-well it was not that bad..

2, a guy in spain sold "weinmann boys levers"NOS for 25, I bought 2 sets and I got adult levers.
I told him these are adult-he said his child uses them(90mm reach?!?!) and there is no refund listed.
tough sh it well I will either use them one day or not.

but you got it good and I would do something about it.

mike

Peazwig: You'll get a lot of support on that here. BTW, why did you bother replying to this thread? Most people here in C&V buy used parts off of ebay and other sources. And many like Campy NR, myself included. You won't find much which will outlive it in terms of being bullet-proof.

Wuff: I wouldn't use any of that on a personal bike.

The pictures looked like they focused on the good bits and avoided the bad ones. I could not see how poor the condition was from the pictures and the angle.

I broke one of my "Golden Rules" about purchasing sight unseen. "Thou shalt not buy something more expensive than what you are willing to flush down the toilet"! That is the chance I was referring to.



I have bought a good deal of stuff from eBay, and generally the results were good. However the $$$ were rarely more than you would spend on an evening out with your wife or GF.


I have sent an email and the seller has responded. I will keep you posted.

This is the problem. Though I would like to give the seller the benefit of the doubt, there are just too many ebay sellers who hide damage or otherwise try to get a higher price by not describing condition thoroughly. Shameful practice, but, such is life.
I hope it works out OK for you Wuff.

Actually that is the point I was trying to make with the Picts I have posted. If the parts had looked like the Picts in the posting even with some of the things that were pointed out we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.

yes, I am reiterating this to give some support to your case. There is certainly damage not evident in the listing.

While the seller stated "no returns", that really does not apply when the item is misrepresented.
I would go through the ebay "item not as described" gauntlet.
It reads like the reasonable resolution would be either:

A significant rebate on the price, if this group was imaged reasonably, the prevailing bid would be no where near $510.

Or, a return of the merchandise and refund of all the costs less return shipping.

Not "whole" solutions but reasonable.

The quality of the drillium is not great, but is kind of period, there were only a few real machinists doing one off work back then, most was garage level work.

I'm not going to say anything about the drillium-execution! - but I do note one thing nobody has yet pointed out: the seller has a note that asks prospective buyers to email him for more pics or information.

Personally, I'd have asked to see pics of those areas most commonly either worn or damaged and then made my valuation from there. I could clean all this stuff up myself, so I'd have gone about $250, always with the understanding I had some work in front of me.

Interesting that the seatpost has a gold-plated head on it; that's pretty cool!

To the OP: a lot of that can be cleaned up, no problem, but some will surely have to be replaced. As for the aluminum, well, stripping the anodizing off and cleaning up the small scrapes/divots won't be too bad. The brake levers, for example, don't really look all that bad from the photo you provided.

Other parts, well, a different story :)

Good luck!

DD

1. last time i was fooled by the crooked Bottecchia frame—what ebay did for me was pretty clear and simple.
they didn't go by interpreting descriptions e.g) what's good or very good, but by whether there was a discrepancy between the description and the actual item.
as long as you can clearly state what's not in the description—PICS being a part of description, btw—or what differs from the description, they will be on your side.
for instance, IMO, if 'oxidation' part was not clearly in the description, ebay will see it as the seller was 'hiding' the fact.
when resolved, they also sent me pre-paid lable giving me no worry of paying the return s/h.

2. not entirely related but reference-able
i bid on a replica soccer uniform. when arrived i found it was a knockoff. not terribly manufactured but obviously not authentic. looked at the auction page and realized there was no single word of 'authentic' anywhere. photos were nicely enough to make me think it was an authentic Puma shirt. hard to claim the return at the moment. the i found one photo depicting the authenticity label on the shirt. of course it was fake label on a counterfeit shirt, but 'authentic Puma blah blah' on the label was totally legible in the photo. i attached it to my claim to ebay, stating that was the photo in which i believed it was an authentic, although there was no single word 'authentic' in the entire auction page. ebay raised my hand issuing me a refund. however, i needed to pay return as it was from Germany. ebay didn't want to pay for an int'l s/h, i guess. (funny thing, the return address was in Thailand while the seller was marked as living in Germany and the item was supposed to be from Germany)

these are my recent 2 stories around ebay claim through 'Buyer Protection' thingie for your reference.
i am most confident at that you can return them for full return with even the cost fully supported by ebay in this case.

and as you've mentioned earlier, if you'd like to collect various opinions on it, here is mine:
most o' the parts look POS, i'd definitely claim a complaint and try to return them for full refund.
no way using such things on "my" bike unless i rooted for a whatever at cheapo price scoping some elbow grease.
we are talking about a few hundred bucks "VGC" Campies here, right?

good luck.
:)

Buying used parts off ebay is always a risk and I'm sure OP paid good money for sub par components.