This may or may not be my big score from the Ttown swap meet. While schlepping around exasperated that no one wanted to part with the rubles I was asking for my bike came across a guy with some little trinkets and two frames. One was a Colnago Duall cross (very tempting) and the other was this humble tired looking frameset.



It did meet my three basic requirements for finding a frame there. My size, braze on shifter bosses and drilled for a Portacatena
holder.



It seems fairly light and is well constructed with filed lug points, and great little touches like the diamond reinforcement at the bridges, a petite pumppeg and a backwars brake bridge! yes the brake mounts into the triangle.





When the PO got the frame it was covered in duct tape and when removing it and the adhesive the paint and anything else started coming off. The only clue to the bike identity is a sticker on the HT from Point Reyes Bikes. Other than that there are no markings visable on the frame.


I checked for rifling, none. Seatpost 27.0, dropout 122.7 but no big deal since this was likely used as fixie/SS, the steerer which may have paint that matches what is on the frame is Tange. OH English BB





The PO thought maybe is was built by a Tim Tenins, Tinnems something like that but not Timmons. Any ideas?



Current plan is to see about having it media blasted and inspect for number, cartouches, and brand stamps. Then maybe a few new brazeons and then a paint or powder coat.

LIKE!
such beautiful details it has!
good luck!

Ttown = terrytown? or just a double hit typing? just curious

Thank You

Trexlertown. I got this at the Trexlertown swapmeet.

The PRBS founder still maintains a web presence. Maybe he can help you?

https://pointreyesbikes.com/Point_Rey.../Homepage.html

My shot in the dark,....but the brake and chainstay bridges are identical to what my recently acquired frameset has, frame lugs look the same or very smilar too...plus if it Tange Prestige tubing........could it be a Medici?

Chombi

I stumbled on that earlier today, but I can't make the email link work. I am not sure if it is my newly repaired computer or the website.

Medici would be interesting and a great. I kind of want one of those for some reason.

There was a beautiful purplish one at the swapmeet alledgedly custom built for Peter Whitehead. Unfortunately neither of the guys selling it knew the size or geomentry.

PRBS is located in the middle of a hot-bed of 80's frame builders. I am sure it was made by a small-timer in the states. The notch in the drop is not good sign. It's really crooked.

The angle of the dropouts is a few degrees too counter-clockwise as on the Medici. Chombi may be correct. I do not find the reversed bridge an attractive feature. I have seen a few US made bikes with this anomoly.

The height of the DT water bottle is very low also.

Marshall Livingston I presume, per this site:

https://www.stevepottsbicycles.com

marshall@pointreyesbikes.com

I'll have to check the angle of the dropouts, which is done how? and post it. I am a tad worried about the drops too but I am hoping if this turns out to be a nice frame a good frame builder can spruce them up for me. I suspect they were the result of some fixiefying.

Thanks. I already emailed Mr Potts, he quickly said Tim Teasdale, but I can't find anything on him. most any search for Teasdale comes up with Teesdale.


A small update... I just popped out the HS in hopes of dropping this at a media blaster tomorrow and found blue paint in the HT that seems to match the fork so perhaps that means the fork is atleast original. Now wether the frame is Tange too is another story.

Well you know, all those years in the pot growing capital of the USA and people's spelling skills may wane. There is a Tom Teesdale in Iowa as you've probably found by now. I saw a track frame by him on google that has what appears to be the same headtube lug as your frame.

Very true, but while it was making them more creative I hope the quality of work didn't suffer much. I sent Tom Teesdale an email and I am waiting to here back.

Anyone else have any ideas? I looked it over again last night and don't see any cartouches or number evident. I an getting ready to head out and do some errands and hopefully drop this for some media blasting. I have some ideas a few things I want to do, some inspired by other members bikes, but nothing radical like canti bosses or removing the shift bosses. I am debating a small set of fender eyelets but first it would be nice to kind of know just who really built this and what it original intent was. Was it built for some past his prime nuovo rich guy for his club rides? maybe someone had it built to ride acorss America. Is it a dog built from scraps off the floor by a young apprentice or did a master rivaling Medici or Chance but know only in his own little part of the country build it?


Ftwelder how do I measure the angle of the dropout? Do I level the frame in my stand and use a ruler to sit my angle guage on parrellel to the lower part of the drop? but what does that angle off vertical compare to?

Hi Bianchigirll, I'm currently looking for a similar frame so I can mount a Campy Portacanta derailing system, a 1st gen SR rear derailleur, a four hole front derailleur and a 1st gen SR seatpost plus the rest of the Campy groupset. What are your plans for this frame?

Hi Gary

I am headed out the door to a machine/fabrication shop down the street to see about having the shifter bosses, cable guides and derailleur hanger cut off. then I have some rustoleum fire engine red paint for it and killer set of pink Velocity wheels with green tires and some rockin bull horns made from some Cinelli 64 bars.







Actually my plan is pretty much the same as yours. My first goal to find out more about it. Then I definitely want a set of bottle bosses maybe two. I am toying with fender/rack eyelets but not certain on those. Then either paint or powder coat and build. Portacatena, SR, Cobaltos, ugly upright/hybrid stem drop bars, HF hubs w/ shinny tubulars.

Sometime it's good when a frame can't possibly be identified - it gives you all kinds of freedom to do as you want e.g. the ugly upright/hybrid stem. Hahaha.

Maybe ftwelder might be saying that the rear dropouts are angled a little bit more "counterclockwise" looking from the drive side of the frame than seen on most other frameset, meaning that the DO slot is closer to parallel to the chainstays than the usual where the DO slots are angled (clockwise) downward at a steeper angle than the chainstays.
Here's a pic of the Medici frame I just got from catnap that seem to show that condition:


Chombi

I thought that was Catnap's testbed? I put a BB wrench in the drops held in place by a screwdriver, against the upper side, and the guage shows they are 23d off parrellel to the TT does that mean anything?

I came across the 'seller' I got it from and he said the guy he thought built it was Tim Neenan at Lighthouse. I contacted hime and he said it is not his but again agreed it looks like quality work. the powdercoater I went to today was closed so that will have to wait a week or so.

Gosh Trina, that frame looks really similar to one I had stolen while I was living in Bolinas in the mid-70's...not. But I sure do like it.