Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Do you believe in magic?

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Do you believe in magic?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-15-12 | 01:32 PM
  #51  
bikingshearer's Avatar
Crawlin' up, flyin' down
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,764
Likes: 4,415
From: Democratic Peoples' Republic of Berkeley

Bikes: 1967 Paramount; 1982-ish Ron Cooper; 1978 Eisentraut "A"; two mid-1960s Cinelli Speciale Corsas; and others in various stages of non-rideability.

Originally Posted by revchuck
I happened to be riding my carbon Look 585, but it would've been the same on my aluminum Allez or my steel Ironman.
Mentioning aluminum and (shudder) carbon fiber in the same breath as Holy Steel? Heretic! Now drop and give us 50 Hail Cinos, do 25 Stations of the Madonna del Ghisallo and pray your lungs out to St. Tullio begging for his intercession on your behalf for the salvation of your C&V soul.

Done? Good. Now go forth and sin no more.
__________________
"I'm in shape -- round is a shape." Andy Rooney
bikingshearer is offline  
Reply
Old 10-15-12 | 01:50 PM
  #52  
revchuck's Avatar
OMC
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 6,973
Likes: 142
From: South Louisiana

Bikes: Specialized Allez Sprint, Look 585, Specialized Crux E5 Sport, Trek Domane SL6

Originally Posted by bikingshearer
Mentioning aluminum and (shudder) carbon fiber in the same breath as Holy Steel? Heretic! Now drop and give us 50 Hail Cinos, do 25 Stations of the Madonna del Ghisallo and pray your lungs out to St. Tullio begging for his intercession on your behalf for the salvation of your C&V soul.

Done? Good. Now go forth and sin no more.


FWIW, it was carbon, but it was lugged carbon!
__________________
Regards,
Chuck

Demain, on roule!
revchuck is offline  
Reply
Old 10-15-12 | 02:35 PM
  #53  
3alarmer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 22,994
Likes: 10,498
From: Sacramento, CA

Bikes: old ones

Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I believe in magic. I once took a magic pill,
Originally Posted by seedsbelize

And Robbie, that was not magic; it was a black beauty.
Dextroamphetamine is pharmaceutical.....................'shrooms are magic. Whole different deal.
3alarmer is offline  
Reply
Old 10-15-12 | 02:39 PM
  #54  
3alarmer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 22,994
Likes: 10,498
From: Sacramento, CA

Bikes: old ones

Originally Posted by bikingshearer
Mentioning aluminum and (shudder) carbon fiber in the same breath as Holy Steel?
CF bikes are the work of Beelzebub, thus might qualify as black magic............not something you want to fool around with.
Unless you're into death metal and Satanism and stuff like that.
3alarmer is offline  
Reply
Old 10-16-12 | 06:25 PM
  #55  
bikingshearer's Avatar
Crawlin' up, flyin' down
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,764
Likes: 4,415
From: Democratic Peoples' Republic of Berkeley

Bikes: 1967 Paramount; 1982-ish Ron Cooper; 1978 Eisentraut "A"; two mid-1960s Cinelli Speciale Corsas; and others in various stages of non-rideability.

Originally Posted by revchuck


FWIW, it was carbon, but it was lugged carbon!
In that case, knock off 10 Hail Cinos and five Stations. But let this be a warning to you.

Now where did I put that hair shirt . . . .
__________________
"I'm in shape -- round is a shape." Andy Rooney
bikingshearer is offline  
Reply
Old 10-16-12 | 06:41 PM
  #56  
Banned.
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Likes: 1,463
Originally Posted by 3alarmer
Dextroamphetamine is pharmaceutical.....................'shrooms are magic. Whole different deal.
Yes, with 'shrooms, it's best to lock the doors and hide the car keys, especially when you start to hear colors. I was a teen in the 70's. However, once I saw the effects of Jimson weed, a.k.a. Baggio Bellflower, I was cured of even the curiosity.
RobbieTunes is offline  
Reply
Old 10-16-12 | 06:44 PM
  #57  
Banned.
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Likes: 1,463
Originally Posted by KOBE
Orgasmic? I am getting me a set of those!
I'm getting one for the missus.
RobbieTunes is offline  
Reply
Old 10-16-12 | 06:57 PM
  #58  
thinktubes's Avatar
weapons-grade bolognium
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,615
Likes: 3,326
From: Across the street from Chicago

Bikes: Battaglin Cromor, Ciocc Designer 84, Schwinn Superior 1981

Originally Posted by gomango
Fit, skill of the builder and Columbus steel.
Agree with fit and Columbus steel. If by skill of the builder, you mean geometry, I'd agree with that too.

I've owned 2 bikes (out of over 30) that had "magic". The first one was a Faggin w/TreTubi. The other one is my Ciocc SLX.

Both bikes have a lively, springy feel and tight geometry that just begs for riding fast. Hammer the hills, carve the curves, burn the flats.

I sold the Faggin because it was slightly too small, but the Ciocc fits perfectly. Even after a 106-mile century, I still felt like I could go another 20.
thinktubes is offline  
Reply
Old 10-16-12 | 07:37 PM
  #59  
seedsbelize's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,315
Likes: 903
From: Tixkokob, Yucatán, México

Bikes: 79 Trek 930, 80 Trek 414, 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe (coupled), 92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 5

Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Yes, with 'shrooms, it's best to lock the doors and hide the car keys, especially when you start to hear colors. I was a teen in the 70's. However, once I saw the effects of Jimson weed, a.k.a. Baggio Bellflower, I was cured of even the curiosity.
That's a good one to stay away from.
seedsbelize is offline  
Reply
Old 10-17-12 | 12:13 PM
  #60  
Giacomo 1's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 18
From: Queens NYC

Bikes: Colnago Super, Basso Gap, Pogliaghi, Fabio Barecci, Torelli Pista, Miyata 1400A

From the bikes I've ridden and the three in my collection, I have to say that my SL framed Basso Gap is as close to magical as I've been on.

For sheer speed, handling and quickness, my aluminum Miyata and Aelle steel Barecci don't come up to the Basso. The Gap always urges me to go faster, to find another gear, and to push hard. In a sprint and out of the saddle, I feel I can really push this frame back and forth and get out over the bars for more speed than the others. Turn-ins are quick and you just want to attack the turns fast. If I don't ride the Basso for awhile, I have to once again get used to it's quick handling characteristics, or I can get in trouble with it. The SL steel of the Basso is light, probably as light as my aluminum Miyata or more-so, and I think that has something to do with it, but I think the bigger part is the geometry. It's built to go fast and race.

My Basso makes feel like Cavendish going for the lead in a sprint finish. Now that is magic!
__________________
It never gets easier, you just go faster. ~ Greg LeMond
Giacomo 1 is offline  
Reply
Old 10-17-12 | 12:28 PM
  #61  
squirtdad's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 11,496
Likes: 4,912
From: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca

Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, 86 De Rosa Pro, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque

I can't say that I have had the "magical' ride...I really like my bikes and each does different things well. I might get more input if I ever finish my current build . But I am looking for magic.

I really think it will be a mix of frame, components and little things like seat postion that will add to magic and if one of those is off a little bit magic will go to really good.

OT: I had that experience many years ago with skiing. Got a new pair of Volkl Renntiger's in 210 (a long time ago), new bindings and pair of Dynafit race boots. The combination was magic in skiing ability. The first time I dropped in on an icy slope it was like no ice at all. the problem was i couldn't get the boots to not hure (dynfit=dontfit was the joke). I finally got new boots, which required a slight binding remount...and the magic was gone. They were still really good , but not magic. it could have been millimeters of differenc in the balance point or ??? but the difference was clear....but the boots didn't hurt.
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can.





squirtdad is online now  
Reply
Old 10-17-12 | 01:00 PM
  #62  
miamijim's Avatar
Senior Member
Sheldon Brown Memorial - Donating
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,973
Likes: 145
From: Tampa, Florida
I believe in it.

I've riden alot of brands of bikes from many corners of the globe and some truely have that 'magical' feel. It's one of those things where unless you've experienced it you'll never understand it. Alot of it is knowing what a bad bike rides like and going from there, as a rider do you have the knowledge of ehat makes a handle, accellerate and climb? If you dont you'll never know what 'magical' is.

When I first sat in the Honda S2000 I thought it was 'magical', it was like Honda sculpted the interior around my body, it was perfect in every aspect. I'll hop on a bike and it only takes me a few hundered yards to know...there's just something that speaks to me and says 'this is a great bike'.
miamijim is offline  
Reply
Old 10-17-12 | 01:08 PM
  #63  
sailorbenjamin's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,630
Likes: 18
From: Rhode Island (an obscure suburb of Connecticut)

Bikes: one of each

Funny, the fist time I felt the magic was in a '69 AMC Javelin. Looks just like a Mustang or a Camaro but feels like being tied to the end of a giant bungy cord. Sure it was comfy and all that but it was the suspension that gave me the lust. Oddly enough, I felt the same thing in a '59 Plymouth. Tried dozens of sports cars trying to find it again and none would do.
Didn't feel it again till I got that Raleigh Super Course.
sailorbenjamin is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hellojoben
Classic & Vintage
54
09-12-18 12:19 PM
cateyes
Classic & Vintage
35
04-03-12 06:36 PM
Henry III
Classic & Vintage
30
11-26-11 03:17 PM
Airburst
Framebuilders
7
07-05-11 09:07 PM
Plimogz
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
5
03-30-11 03:24 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.