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RFC 10-25-12 03:54 PM

How do I remove this freewheel?
 
I have no clue.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...le/photo-2.jpg

Chombi 10-25-12 04:07 PM

That round aluminum(?) disc behind the axle lock nuts could be a dust cap that you can pop off and there could be FW body notches or splines under it that you can fit a FW remover on to.
Take the axle nuts off and see if you can get at an edge to get that dust cap off.......if it is a dust cap.

Chombi

brian3069 10-25-12 04:13 PM

That looks like it could be a cassette, not a freewheel. If it is a cassette you'll need 2 chain whips. One whip to hold the cassette the other to remove the small threaded sprocket.

RFC 10-25-12 04:13 PM

Yes, I've loosened to axle enough to move the disc. The bearings are directly under it.

zandoval 10-25-12 04:16 PM

Did you say how you got it off? - Interested...

rootboy 10-25-12 04:17 PM

Weird.

RFC 10-25-12 04:23 PM

Actually, haven't got it off it. It's Suntour and appears to be a freewheel.

Chombi 10-25-12 04:54 PM

If the bearings are right under that cap and you still don't see notches or splines to use a FW remover on, you might actually have to tear down the FW to get at the inner body and hopefully have a tool to get a grip at it to screw it off (I wonder if there could be flats on the inner FW body)......that's unusual, but maybe some here that have worked on older Suntours might have encountered the FW already and can chime in.
Keep us posted on what else you find out....

Chombi

ThermionicScott 10-25-12 04:59 PM

Got a picture of the hub from the other side of the dork disk? Early SunTour cassette hubs had a thread-on top cog like Shimano's Uniglide hubs. I'd give the two-chainwhips thing a try.

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/pr...large/4531.jpg
(Picture from here: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/suntour-c...-hubs-dept107/ )

Chombi 10-25-12 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 14880299)
Got a picture of the hub from the other side of the dork disk? Early SunTour cassette hubs had a thread-on top cog like Shimano's Uniglide hubs. I'd give the two-chainwhips thing a try.

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/pr...large/4531.jpg
(Picture from here: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/suntour-c...-hubs-dept107/ )

Oi!, that kinda looks like indeed what's going on........ I thought the OP's hub was much older than that one in the pic. I guess all the dirt and dust fooled me......

RFC 10-25-12 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 14880299)
Got a picture of the hub from the other side of the dork disk? Early SunTour cassette hubs had a thread-on top cog like Shimano's Uniglide hubs. I'd give the two-chainwhips thing a try.

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/pr...large/4531.jpg
(Picture from here: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/suntour-c...-hubs-dept107/ )

I gave that a try. The small sprocket does not appear to be separate from the cassette or freewheel.

Jeff Wills 10-25-12 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 14880299)
Got a picture of the hub from the other side of the dork disk? Early SunTour cassette hubs had a thread-on top cog like Shimano's Uniglide hubs. I'd give the two-chainwhips thing a try.

Agreed. It looks like it's an old SunTour cassette hub to me. It'll take two chainwhips and a lot of force to loosen the small cog, assuming it's not rusted in place.

Is there some reason you want to save it? SunTour cassettes haven't been made in nearly 20 years, and they're the only cassette that fits that hub. 100% incompatible with Shimano or clones.

teetime 10-25-12 05:51 PM

I have the tool for that, I'm pretty sure. You need to take the axle out from the NDS first. A picture of the hub like the stock photo shown would be helpful, as would be any markings on the hub.

Once you remove the axle you will see the pattern on the DS for the freewheel removal tool. If not, it's a cassette...two chainwhips.

As stated by others, a bit more of a clue as to what we are looking at would be helpful. Is this a road or mtn wheel, for example.

miamijim 10-25-12 05:57 PM

Its a cassette hub. Hold the low gear cog forward with one chain whip and loosen the high gear cog with another chain whip.

If you only have one whip put the wheel back in your bike with chain in low gear, apply forward pedal pressure and loosen the high gear cog with a whip.

cyclotoine 10-25-12 05:59 PM

sure looks like a cassette to me. Either way the small cog will unscrew with enough leverage and liquid wrench but I bet it is really ceased on there. I would using a vice to hold a chain wrapped around the small cog (lock cog) and a good chainwhip with at least a 3ft cheater bar on the other cogs to try and remove it if it is really stuck.

RFC 10-25-12 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff Wills (Post 14880398)
Agreed. It looks like it's an old SunTour cassette hub to me. It'll take two chainwhips and a lot of force to loosen the small cog, assuming it's not rusted in place.

Is there some reason you want to save it? SunTour cassettes haven't been made in nearly 20 years, and they're the only cassette that fits that hub. 100% incompatible with Shimano or clones.

I'm coming to that same conclusion.

brian3069 10-25-12 06:39 PM

I posted this thread a while back thinking someone might find it useful.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...tte?highlight=

cudak888 10-25-12 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff Wills (Post 14880398)
Is there some reason you want to save it? SunTour cassettes haven't been made in nearly 20 years, and they're the only cassette that fits that hub. 100% incompatible with Shimano or clones.

Haven't been made, but they're not obsolete - I still have four NOS from a lot of 25+.

-Kurt

Jeff Wills 10-25-12 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 14880657)
Haven't been made, but they're not obsolete - I still have four NOS from a lot of 25+.

-Kurt

Sounds like material for an episode of "Hoarders"... not that I'm any better. :rolleyes:


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