Galvanic chart of different components.... this should be fun!.......................
10-30-12 | 09:42 AM
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Galvanic chart of different components.... this should be fun!.......................
the headset thread sparked this!
Lets produce the first Galvanic chart of vintage bicycle components.
We all know mixing particular brands will cause severe corrosion to the frame, some even self-ignite.
first sign of incorrect mixture is the paint starts turning color near the least noble component.
I know from experence French Bicycles are very happy with french components on them.
for some reason you can mix many french brands on the same french frame without any corrosion.
Italian bikes are very susceptible to catastrophic failures when Japanese components are added.
German frames seem to be very tolerant to different brands-My Nelli's Hans Lutz is ok with french TA crankset and Shimano 600 arabesque and 600 ultegra components,
I may try to put on the 600 ultegra hubs with the Italian rims, the spokes are galvanized so I hope they dont corrode, Maybe I will try stainless spokes.
I hope also the regina freewheel does not sieze to the hub,but the regina chain is connected to the french chainwheels so this should overpower the corrosion.
big risk...
but I believe we all agree which component manufacturer is the MOST NOBLE
Lets produce the first Galvanic chart of vintage bicycle components.
We all know mixing particular brands will cause severe corrosion to the frame, some even self-ignite.
first sign of incorrect mixture is the paint starts turning color near the least noble component.
I know from experence French Bicycles are very happy with french components on them.
for some reason you can mix many french brands on the same french frame without any corrosion.
Italian bikes are very susceptible to catastrophic failures when Japanese components are added.
German frames seem to be very tolerant to different brands-My Nelli's Hans Lutz is ok with french TA crankset and Shimano 600 arabesque and 600 ultegra components,
I may try to put on the 600 ultegra hubs with the Italian rims, the spokes are galvanized so I hope they dont corrode, Maybe I will try stainless spokes.
I hope also the regina freewheel does not sieze to the hub,but the regina chain is connected to the french chainwheels so this should overpower the corrosion.
big risk...
but I believe we all agree which component manufacturer is the MOST NOBLE
Last edited by puchfinnland; 10-30-12 at 09:46 AM.
10-30-12 | 10:33 AM
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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In my limited experience the failure was the Japanese part, not the frame. Though in truth it was an American Italian-style frame.
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10-30-12 | 10:46 AM
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10-30-12 | 11:25 AM
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Dutch bikes are probably least susceptible to failure due to non-compatible parts. One should have no problems with the use of French, Italian, Japanese, Spanish, etc. parts.
10-30-12 | 12:17 PM
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among several other lesser brands, like Olimpic.
among several other lesser brands, like Olimpic.
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* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
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1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
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1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King
1971 Gitane Tour de France (original owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
(replacing stolen 1981 TR Everest custom)
1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)
10-30-12 | 01:10 PM
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A friend of mine refers to his youngest son as "the Liberal." So when I asked the Liberal about picking up a Peugeot mixte for me in mostly conservative Grand Rapids, here was the feedback I got last month:
"I will try to get over there after the Obama rally and my Acorn voter registration duties. I may need to ride it since it's French and you know how much us liberals love French socialism."
"I will try to get over there after the Obama rally and my Acorn voter registration duties. I may need to ride it since it's French and you know how much us liberals love French socialism."
