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Old 02-02-13, 09:03 PM
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This is why I ride vintage frames

I just don't get hipster ironic kids and companies like Surly who cater to them (and apparently hire them to write their blogs.)

If I wanted to spend a bunch of money on an attitude like this I'd...well, I wouldn't do it!

Sure, I know it's supposed to be a joke -except it isn't funny. This attitude is all too common on the shop-side in bicycle history.


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If you swear at us on the phone be ready to hear our impression of a drunken sailor.

Will the (Insert tire name here) and (insert rim name here) fit on the (Insert bike co. name here that’s not Surly) frame? We have no idea, why don’t you ask (Insert bike co. name here that’s not Surly)?

The moment the word “Rohloff” is mentioned you should be able to feel our eyes glaze over.

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Surly makes some pretty good bikes, the Fat Bikes are tops.
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Surly they jest.
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Originally Posted by Amesja
I just don't get hipster ironic kids and companies like Surly who cater to them
It's much in the same way a gnarly hipster dude doesn't get Boulder Bicycle. Have a scotch & a cigar, you'll feel better in the morning.
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Old 02-02-13, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Velognome
It's much in the same way a gnarly hipster dude doesn't get Boulder Bicycle. Have a scotch & a cigar, you'll feel better in the morning.
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They make OK bikes, but they are amateurs in the industry and always will be. I have yet to see anything they have put out that makes me want to buy it over other American brands.
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Snotty is hip these days. I guess. What's a surly?

Is one of their frame colors "Cappuccino" by chance?
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Originally Posted by Vonruden
Surly makes some pretty good bikes, the Fat Bikes are tops.
Fun for sure.

I ended up with two Salsas though.

Both 29ers and both are a hoot.
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Originally Posted by Amesja
... it's supposed to be a joke -except it isn't funny.
Word up.
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Originally Posted by wrote4luck
They make OK bikes, but they are amateurs in the industry and always will be. I have yet to see anything they have put out that makes me want to buy it over other American brands.

You do realize which massive wholesale distributor backs the Surly brand, right?

https://www.qbp.com/page/brands

They're selling a brand, just like the other cycling companies. There's a group they're targeting, and apparently you're not in it.
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I have a friend who runs a bike shop in a big city. He was a good amateur racer back before most of us were born and still has the "hard man" attitude. He really prefers old steel bikes, tubulars, hairnets, and the rest, but in order to make a living has to cater to the hipster/fixie crowd. He loathes them, and they know it - which, perversely, really seems to help his business. So it wouldn't surprise me if that Surly bit is part of what keeps their business running. And frankly, if I had their clientele, I'd be annoyed enough to think (if not write) that way myself.
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The shop is still in business so they must know their target demographic fairly well. I guess being hip nowadays involves being talked to like a piece of garbage. By those specs my ex wife's the coolest...
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The joke.
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Your head.
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
There's a group they're targeting, and apparently you're not in it.
Say no more, say no more. I'll get in this other group. Group "W" I think they call it.
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Already have my pencils here on then bench.
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Originally Posted by lasauge
The joke.
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Your head.
+1

All I have to say is cool story, bro. Too ironic though, right?
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Originally Posted by ShoreCyclist
The shop is still in business so they must know their target demographic fairly well. I guess being hip nowadays involves being talked to like a piece of garbage. By those specs my ex wife's the coolest...
Wish you'd warned me off of her before we tied the knot. But then, there was no way in hell I was going to try to talk the next guy out of it.
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Weird and angry. You've got issues.
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Originally Posted by gomango
Fun for sure.

I ended up with two Salsas though.

Both 29ers and both are a hoot.
You showed them! Oh wait... Surly and Salsa are both QBP brands.
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Most Surly owners I know are curmudgeons, not hipsters. Even the fatbike owners
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Uh oh. Looks like the kids from SS/FG are on a fire mission. Irony incoming!
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I didn't get anything, I had to pay $50 and clean up the garbage.
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most surly's suck.

okay okay, they do the job the are intended to do in a satisfactory manor, but they never do it well. They are like the guy you work with who doesn't really like his job but doesn't have it in him to grab life by the (insert whatever you wish) and really do something well.

Okay I give in.. surlys are alright.. somas and salsas are better.
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Most bike brands used buy 3X the amount of components they really need each year and dump them at grey market outlets that they owned or were involved with. Mail/internet order houses were one such place, others supported small frame brands who couldn't qualify for OE. Then bike brands started their own component lines and forcing the small brands and their distributors off the shelf. The internet sales thing blew up and the mailorder places buy through QBP as almost a franchise. Margins are slim.

QBP is a brand just like trek, spec or the doral lump, driving for the end of the road as quickly as possible.
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"-except it isn't funny. "

Worse, I think. It was supposed to be clever.
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