Cottered crank removal
#26
Ride, Wrench, Swap, Race

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,818
Likes: 1,790
From: Northern California
Bikes: Cheltenham-Pedersen racer, Boulder F/S Paris-Roubaix, Varsity racer, '52 Christophe, '62 Continental, '92 Merckx, '75 Limongi, '76 Presto, '72 Gitane SC, '71 Schwinn SS, etc.
I had been using a torch to heat the end of the cotter crank for about 2 minutes before pounding out a stubborn cotter. I would heat until grease started bubbling from the spindle area and then it was fairly easy to extract those hellaciously-tight cotters.
I recently followed another thread somewhere and saw that someone came up with a nice-looking cast-iron press using a Harbor Freight chain-breaker, so I bought one for $8 and crafted a slightly different version. So far, it has done two rebuilds with relative ease, but I still heat each crankarm with the torch for at least a minute before really cranking on this cheap tool. Shown is what I came up with, after shortening and reinforcing the thin drive pin with an alloy sleeve. The big main screw has some hardening to it, and drilling it out used up a couple of 25/64" drill bits iir.
I'm so glad to have a smooth-turning bottom bracket (now with grade-25 ball bearings) in my Steyr Clubman. It is a huge improvement, to my surprise, and I put another 80 miles on her just this weekend.
The Steyr cup races appeared to be very hardened, with machining marks still prominent. The spindle races looked great, and the threading turned out to be English.
I recently followed another thread somewhere and saw that someone came up with a nice-looking cast-iron press using a Harbor Freight chain-breaker, so I bought one for $8 and crafted a slightly different version. So far, it has done two rebuilds with relative ease, but I still heat each crankarm with the torch for at least a minute before really cranking on this cheap tool. Shown is what I came up with, after shortening and reinforcing the thin drive pin with an alloy sleeve. The big main screw has some hardening to it, and drilling it out used up a couple of 25/64" drill bits iir.
I'm so glad to have a smooth-turning bottom bracket (now with grade-25 ball bearings) in my Steyr Clubman. It is a huge improvement, to my surprise, and I put another 80 miles on her just this weekend.
The Steyr cup races appeared to be very hardened, with machining marks still prominent. The spindle races looked great, and the threading turned out to be English.
#27
Senior Member


Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 7,717
Likes: 4,122
From: Berkeley, CA
Bikes: 72 Cilo Pacer, 72 Gitane GT, 72 Peugeot PX10, 73 Speedwell Ti,l, 75 Peugeot PR-10L, 80 Colnago Super, 81 Zinn, 85 ALAN Cross, 85 De Rosa Pro, 86 Look 753, 86 Look KG86, 89 Parkpre Team, 90 Parkpre Team MTB, 90 Merlin
^Looks like a nice tool.
I've been thinking about modifying a C-clamp by JB welding a socket to the end of a c-clamp and removing the other swivel end, then filing the end under the swivel to create a nice contact point for the pin.
In the meantime, I just use a socket and vise, which has worked every time...so far.
I've been thinking about modifying a C-clamp by JB welding a socket to the end of a c-clamp and removing the other swivel end, then filing the end under the swivel to create a nice contact point for the pin.
In the meantime, I just use a socket and vise, which has worked every time...so far.
__________________
-Randy
'72 Cilo Pacer (x2) '72 Peugeot PX10 72 Gitane Gran Tourisme '73 Speedwell Ti '74 Motobecane Grand Jubile '74 Peugeot UE-8 80 Colnago Super 81 Univega Super Special 82 Zinn 84ish Mystery Custom '85 A.L.A.N Cyclocross '85 De Rosa Pro '86 Look Equipe 753 '86 Look KG86 '89 Parkpre Team Road '90 Parkpre Team MTB '90 Merlin Ti
Avatar photo courtesy of jeffveloart.com, contact: contact: jeffnil8 (at) gmail.com.
-Randy
'72 Cilo Pacer (x2) '72 Peugeot PX10 72 Gitane Gran Tourisme '73 Speedwell Ti '74 Motobecane Grand Jubile '74 Peugeot UE-8 80 Colnago Super 81 Univega Super Special 82 Zinn 84ish Mystery Custom '85 A.L.A.N Cyclocross '85 De Rosa Pro '86 Look Equipe 753 '86 Look KG86 '89 Parkpre Team Road '90 Parkpre Team MTB '90 Merlin Ti
Avatar photo courtesy of jeffveloart.com, contact: contact: jeffnil8 (at) gmail.com.
#28
Newbie
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Also found a new Cotter Press for sale on ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COTTERPIN-...item460ea20f71
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COTTERPIN-...item460ea20f71
#29
Newbie
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
#30
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 6
From: Rochester, NY
Bikes: 1962 Carlton Franco-Suisse Custom,1968 Raleigh DL-1/Tourist, 1971 Holdsworth Professional, 1973 Holdsworth Mistral,1973 Raleigh Gran Sport,1974 Raleigh Grand Prix, 1993 Trek 2200 Composite, 2011 Trek 7.3FX
heat works great, i had a stuck cotter on my tourist.. broke my improvised harbour freight press..drill out only made it harder to work on... in the end a nice smack with a hammer and a blow torch did the trick +1 on one thing not working everytime...
guys at my coop say to back out the nut level with the top of the cotter pin then use a hammer, that way you protect the top of the cotter and have extra surface area to hit with a hammer, this worked a few times.. but the threads don't last too many hits.. so if it doesn't budge after the fifth hit i would go another route...
guys at my coop say to back out the nut level with the top of the cotter pin then use a hammer, that way you protect the top of the cotter and have extra surface area to hit with a hammer, this worked a few times.. but the threads don't last too many hits.. so if it doesn't budge after the fifth hit i would go another route...
#31
Senior Member

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,656
Likes: 366
From: St. Paul, MN
Bikes: Too many 3-speeds, Jones Plus LWB
I just ran into this one today: any recommendations for removal of a cotter pin where the nut cannot be removed because the threads are stripped?
And as a side note, be picky about cotter pins you buy for installation! There are soft steel units (like the one I am struggling with now) that are essentially worse than useless.
And as a side note, be picky about cotter pins you buy for installation! There are soft steel units (like the one I am struggling with now) that are essentially worse than useless.
#32
Sturmey Archer Hub


Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,680
Likes: 1,970
From: New England
Bikes: Old Schwinns and old Raleighs
I think Bikesmith Grade A is the way to go for new pins. The common, production ones are really soft. They are essentially pinched off, cheap rod stock whereas the Bikesmith ones are considerably better.
I just ran into this one today: any recommendations for removal of a cotter pin where the nut cannot be removed because the threads are stripped?
And as a side note, be picky about cotter pins you buy for installation! There are soft steel units (like the one I am struggling with now) that are essentially worse than useless.
And as a side note, be picky about cotter pins you buy for installation! There are soft steel units (like the one I am struggling with now) that are essentially worse than useless.
__________________
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979): HERE
Classic American and British Roadsters, Utility Bikes, and Sporting Bikes (1935-1979): HERE
#34
Senior Member

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,656
Likes: 366
From: St. Paul, MN
Bikes: Too many 3-speeds, Jones Plus LWB
Just picked up the Bikesmith cotter pin press. It is charming how well it works and is half the price the Park presses go for on Ebay.
Its nice to use it to install the pin rather than using the pin's nut to cinch it in. No loose cranks- right the first time. Also installed the grade A cotter pins he sells, filed for the Raleigh crank. Sweet!
Its nice to use it to install the pin rather than using the pin's nut to cinch it in. No loose cranks- right the first time. Also installed the grade A cotter pins he sells, filed for the Raleigh crank. Sweet!
#35
Ride, Wrench, Swap, Race

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,818
Likes: 1,790
From: Northern California
Bikes: Cheltenham-Pedersen racer, Boulder F/S Paris-Roubaix, Varsity racer, '52 Christophe, '62 Continental, '92 Merckx, '75 Limongi, '76 Presto, '72 Gitane SC, '71 Schwinn SS, etc.
Great to know about those cotters Bikesmith sells.
I can't emphasize enough that cotters need to be hardened, to be suitable for hard use.
I can't emphasize enough that cotters need to be hardened, to be suitable for hard use.
#36
Passista


Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 8,247
Likes: 1,211
Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaρa pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility
Just picked up the Bikesmith cotter pin press. It is charming how well it works and is half the price the Park presses go for on Ebay.
Its nice to use it to install the pin rather than using the pin's nut to cinch it in. No loose cranks- right the first time. Also installed the grade A cotter pins he sells, filed for the Raleigh crank. Sweet!
Its nice to use it to install the pin rather than using the pin's nut to cinch it in. No loose cranks- right the first time. Also installed the grade A cotter pins he sells, filed for the Raleigh crank. Sweet!
#37
Senior Member

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 776
Likes: 303
From: Locust NC
Bikes: 1992, Cannondale R900. Schwinn Prologue. 1991 Paramount pdg
I have used the C clamp and socket and it worked well but I found a even better method. I grab the frame with out wheels and use a bench vice and socket. It does the job in 20 seconds every time. The bench vice has a lot of leverage and it will not slide off center like a C clamp.
Ed
Ed
#38
Newbie
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Here's a link to a seller of a Cotterpin Press: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COTTERPIN-...ht_1187wt_1142
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
the lobster
Bicycle Mechanics
20
03-06-11 11:25 PM





