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Old 05-10-13, 11:05 PM
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Rare Guerciotti help

Hi, I'm new here. My dad's friend sold me a Guerciotti for $300. He wanted to give me a cheaper price on it just because they used to be riding buddies.

I've fallen in love with this bike; I need information about it and my dad doesn't really know much about the model that I just received, and his friend didn't really tell me much about it.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/phillki...in/photostream

Everything is original, and it has a spare tire. Everything works well also.

Could you guys please help me figure out what model this is? I'd be very appreciative! Thanks.

And if you guys need better photos just ask me.

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Old 05-10-13, 11:29 PM
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we need better photos. lots. close up of all the parts and lots of photos of the drive side.
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More photos!
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I like the alley.
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Put some screws in the toe clip cage! Yes, more pics!
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Old 05-11-13, 06:23 AM
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More pics please, this looks very interesting,...
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It looks like it could be a very nice bike, but it's not rare, and as others have said, we can't see much from that one photo.

Looks like a typical blue Columbus SL-tubed Guerciotti, circa 1980. My wife loves hers, and bought it new in 1981. She is out riding it at the moment, fwiw....
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Old 05-13-13, 07:37 PM
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These can be hard to pin down an exact model and year. Bikes like this, Guerciotti, Basso, Colnago, Alan etc, were often sold as frames and 'kits' (basically a box with everything you need to build a bike.

So one person could walk in and buy a blue SL framed Guerciotti and a Campagnolo Super Record kit. The next week a different guy walks in a buys a blue frame but gets a Suntour SuperBee pro kit.

Sometime the models would be labled by the by the frame material and the group like a Super Record SL or SL Victory. But usually the frames sort of had a model name were built how the owner wanted them.

yes more pics! Look at some of the other threads and see what kind of pics peole are posting and take some of your own.
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Worst bike I ever owned was a Gooch, TSD era. I hear the early ones were good, tho.
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Originally Posted by roadrunner2012
Worst bike I ever owned was a Gooch, TSD era. I hear the early ones were good, tho.
Can you elaborate on that? This one is from when TSD was importing them (but not yet painting them in the USA), I think.

The 1981 one my wife has is, to be honest, quite sloppily built, but she loves the darn thing. Can't hardly get her to ride other bikes.
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Sorry, I've been very busy so I don't really have time to post better pictures as of now. I'll try and get some better ones up this weekend depending on my schedule.

Here are some photos taken the same day as the ones above.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/phillki...in/photostream

Like I said, I will upload clearer and more detailed photos soon. Thanks for the replies also.
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Nice phtography, but for us to help you, we need a much clearer shot of the whole bike. Take a clear shot of the bike showing the driveside. Stage the picture so the bike fills the frame. Plain solid color background (there is a reason soooo many of us take pictures in front of the garage door).
Then take closeups of the lugs, bottom bracket shell, drop outs etc.

Read this: https://www.raydobbins.com/photosetup.htm




















....oh and BEAUTIFUL bike!
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FRONT WHEEL IS NOT SECURED! Be sure to lock that skewer down tight.
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Nice mood photography, the mood is Danger.
Between the unsecured toe clip and the wound down and unlocked front quick release this bike has potential to be a great bike or an ambulance ride ticket.

I would get the bike to a shop who can give it a once over to see if there are any other pandora's box lids lying in wait.

Guerciotti became known in the USA in the middle 70's, a Colnago alternative. Later they were just a brand.
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Originally Posted by repechage

Guerciotti became known in the USA in the middle 70's, a Colnago alternative. Later they were just a brand.
Isn't that kind of what 10spd Drive and trek did/does? swallow up decent brands chew them to pieces and spit them out.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Isn't that kind of what 10spd Drive and trek did/does? swallow up decent brands chew them to pieces and spit them out.
Not really, TSD imported frames in bare metal form, they then painted, applied decals and sold them as complete bikes or framesets. I sure they imported ready to ride from the maker as well. I've owned quite a few TSD bikes and have been pleased with them. 'Giordana' was their house brand. Companies would use TSD as a conduit to the U.S. market, for instance, I believe the pre-Trek LeMonds were TSD bikes. LeMond would tell whoever (TSD or the builder in Italy) what he wanted, the company in Italy would built the frames, send them to TSD were they finished and sold.
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Originally Posted by miamijim
Not really, TSD imported frames in bare metal form, they then painted, applied decals and sold them as complete bikes or framesets. I sure they imported ready to ride from the maker as well. I've owned quite a few TSD bikes and have been pleased with them. 'Giordana' was their house brand. Companies would use TSD as a conduit to the U.S. market, for instance, I believe the pre-Trek LeMonds were TSD bikes. LeMond would tell whoever (TSD or the builder in Italy) what he wanted, the company in Italy would built the frames, send them to TSD were they finished and sold.
I think that sums it up. At some point the frames were built at a plant in Italy, Billatto? Or some other volume contract builder, and built to a spec. The connection to the original maker got lost. This happened to many brands, Guerciotti was just one of many if not most.

As a bicycle there is not a difference. As a collector's item the earlier bikes just appeal more.
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I just happened to leave this page open on my computer. As for the worries about the toe clip I knew that was supposed to be fastened and is snug for my feet now. The quick release was also adjusted and fastened post photo.
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