bobotech

So today someone donated 2 bikes, one of which was a rather nice Peugeot. The bike is blue and has the typical Peugeot paintjob. The kicker is that it has a very nice old style Reynolds 531 sticker on the top tube or down tube (can't remember right now). The bike has nice Simplex forged dropouts, all simplex components (black simplex), Stronglight crankset (missed if it was cottered or not), alloy wheels with Normandy hubs. The bike is complete and pretty nice minus saddle.

The downtube shifters are pre-braze-on style using the clamp and the diamond braze-on stop.

I think its a 57cm frame. I'm pretty sure I measured it at 22 1/2 inches.

I would have been interested if it was a 54cm but the standover is just about an inch too much for me.

I already promised the bike to fellow member Anixi here. He really likes the classics and I think this bike would be just up his alley. My shop manager and I came up with what we think is a nice price for the bike as it sits and Anixi and I are going to go to the shop and check it out in a couple of days.

I hope its a PX-10 because it is such a nice bike and has a Reynolds 531 frame.

No pics, I forgot to take some.

bobotech

If I remember correctly, it had Mafac Racer center pull brakes.

shoota 

So did a bajillion bikes of that era. I'm wondering if you shouldn't have just waited to post until you had pictures. I mean the best way to determine a 531 frame is the sticker right? Anixi might have wanted to start this thread too since its his bike.

bobotech

It isn't his bike yet. I just called him up and offered it to him . We are going to make a trip to the co-op on Tuesday and see if he likes it. If he likes it, then he can take it for the price my shop manager set.

The bike also had an original looking Ideali leather saddle that looks like a Brooks on it but one of the other people at the shop today claimed it (David). I noticed from researching, that the Ideali saddles were original to the Peugeot bikes. I might try to see if I can get the saddle back to the bike since they are probably original.

gingi310

https://cyclespeugeot.com/PX10ID.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...a-Peugeot-PX10

3alarmer 

Most of the PX-10 brakes I've seen were marked "competition", IIRC. But differences from the "racer"are not significant.

Otherwise, it's pretty tough without photos. If it's not completly hosed, look for the little aluminum serial # tag on the BB shell,
the inoxydable sticker on the seat tube, the chromed stay ends............the kinda stuff in the reference thread.

The wheels are often non original on these, because they came with tubulars and a lot of them got swapped instead of rebuilt.


The derailleurs were pretty fragile with aging, so look for broken or swapped ones, and try to get the saddle back.

vvup

lazy ID, chrome on rear end = PX-10
no chrome, no px-10

shoota 

Mine came with Racers.

flash2070

David has to return the sadle as the price set by the manager included the saddle fair is fair! :-) I've had three PX-10 (all white with black lugs), and they've all had the chrome on the tips, chain and seat stays, Reynolds 531 decal on the seat tube and forks, Inoxidable decal on the seat tube also, Stronglight crank, Stronglight headset, and the Simplex stamped seat post. It is safe to say based on my limited experience that if you have the above basics that your bike is a PXDiez. :-) I hope it is, and I hope your friends gets a great price. If the bike is way over priced, I would pass, and search for another. If he thinks on it hard enough, he'll probably find it! It works for me! I remember when I first learned about the famed PX-10, and how I dreamt of one day having one. I found three within a year in my area!:-)

Flash

bobbycorno

I beg to differ. Brass pivot bushings (Competition) are a BIG step up from plastic (Racer). And yes, I've owned and used both. Extensively.

SP
OC, OR

bobotech

Well I'm on my way to the shop now to discuss the saddle and I am going to take a few pics of the bike. I will try to post a few in a bit.

shoota 

I bet they still squeal though huh

anixi

I'll post some pics if/when I get it home, although you guys know that I'm pretty stinkin' familiar with the PX-10. I just hope the paper tag is intact, that would make an ID super easy. More to come, and thanks Bo, you da man!

bobotech

Damn. No chrome on the rear end.

I guess its not a PX-10 then. Anixi, if you want, I will post the pics I have, I will refrain for now though.. I had to talk to david anyway which is why I went up there.

anixi

That would be better, it's not that interesting to me anymore. I'm sure that it's a good bike though...post away!

peter_d

If it has a 531 sticker on the main triangle but no chrome on the seat stay it could be a PB10 which was very similar to the PX10 except the fork and rear triangle were supposed to be hi tensile steel. I say supposed to be cause i did a down to bare metal resto on mine and found the whole bike to be 531, in those bike boom days material was often in short supply so i think they built them out of whatever they had on hand. I think the PB10 had a pretty limited run and some of them were sold with white delrin plastic brake lever bodies.

Bianchigirll 

How can you tell is each tube stamped?

anixi

That would be interesting. I'd actually still like to see the bike in question anyway, just to satisfy my curiosity. Bo was going to post some pictures....

John E

The PR-10, which morphed into the PKN-10, was the next step down from the PX-10 and shared the same butted 531 main triangle. My 1980 PKN-10 had visible seams on the backs of the fork blades and rather sloppy brazing.

peter_d

Steerer tube is stamped, one chainstay is stamped very faintly, main tubes are clearly stamped. I literally bought this bike by feel, it was in a dark basement and was the dirtiest bike i've ever seen plus someone had painted half the frame in enamel housepaint but it was very light so i took a chance and bought it for $80.00. Very glad i did, it's one of my favourite bikes.

3alarmer 

As have I........they both seem to stop me pretty well, but certainly the brass lasts longer. BIG step up...

bobotech

It does have the white plastic brake lever bodies and yes to the 531 sticker on the downtube. Simplex forged dropouts, etc. Here are pics:

bobotech

bobotech

anixi

It appears to be a 1978 PRN-10, like this one:

https://mysite.verizon.net/imagelib/s...w&title=PRN10E

I'd like to see it Bo. It actually is a fairly rare bike...