Motobecane Serial Number Database
03-23-23, 02:19 AM
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Hello,
Newbie here with a Motobécane SuperChampion Silver Colour. (There is a post in Classic & Vintage with the Topic : Help needed - Motobecane Super Champion : Silver Colour)
The pictures are in an album in my profile for now. (less than 10 posts)
There are some reference numbers :
-- on the bottom, I could see 5304
-- on the HURET dropouts, it says 3093493 on the left and & 80116 on the right.
Cheers,
Newbie here with a Motobécane SuperChampion Silver Colour. (There is a post in Classic & Vintage with the Topic : Help needed - Motobecane Super Champion : Silver Colour)
The pictures are in an album in my profile for now. (less than 10 posts)
There are some reference numbers :
-- on the bottom, I could see 5304
-- on the HURET dropouts, it says 3093493 on the left and & 80116 on the right.
Cheers,
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03-23-23, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by VintageSteelEU
I think it is active, just not noisy 
Perhaps you could upload links to Flickr album for example (Possibly? I've no idea if that's permissible).
Best way to figure out what you have is to take everything you know about the bicycle and compare it with the catalogues (for example: Motobecane Catalogues). But also look for the French ones. What lugs were used? What tubing? Which head badge (square, round?) Any branding on dropouts? Disclaimer: I'm by no means a specialist or expert. I just love Motobecanes, great bicycles.
Perhaps you could upload links to Flickr album for example (Possibly? I've no idea if that's permissible).Best way to figure out what you have is to take everything you know about the bicycle and compare it with the catalogues (for example: Motobecane Catalogues). But also look for the French ones. What lugs were used? What tubing? Which head badge (square, round?) Any branding on dropouts? Disclaimer: I'm by no means a specialist or expert. I just love Motobecanes, great bicycles.
03-24-23, 07:42 PM
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Thanks for the catalog link. I was able to determine that my Super Mirage is a '77-'79. The hunt continues for the exact year
03-25-23, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by haw
Thank you, VintageSteelEU! Unfortunately links aren't allowed either until I've made at least 10 posts. But I believe it might be a 1977 Grand Touring model based on the date codes inside the brake arms and a quick google search. And anyway I have a potential buyer already, knowing only minimal details about the bike. Any further investigation will have to be carried out by the next owner.
Good luck with the sale. Whoever is getting it, is getting a nice riding bicycle for sure
Originally Posted by retlaw53
Thanks for the catalog link. I was able to determine that my Super Mirage is a '77-'79. The hunt continues for the exact year
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05-15-23, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by VintageSteelEU
Well, got some more numbers to add. I'm working on 1980 Motobecane C5 right now.
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I could uncover some numbers and see them clearly.
The main number on the BB shell is 05315492 and further towards the rear end of the bicycle there is 3109. On the front side it's stamped with "P" whatever that might mean. On the down tube there is 579 stamped near the BB shell. Barely visible in the photo, but clear enough when looking at the frame in person. Manufacturing date of the tube, perhaps? Head tube lugs have both BCM (Bocama?) stamped on them. Fork dropouts are marked "Huret", there's nothing I can see so far on the rear dropouts. The seatpost binder lug has 72 stamped on it. I'm assuming it's the seat tube angle.
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Well, found 1750 on the drive side dropout after all.
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I could uncover some numbers and see them clearly.
The main number on the BB shell is 05315492 and further towards the rear end of the bicycle there is 3109. On the front side it's stamped with "P" whatever that might mean. On the down tube there is 579 stamped near the BB shell. Barely visible in the photo, but clear enough when looking at the frame in person. Manufacturing date of the tube, perhaps? Head tube lugs have both BCM (Bocama?) stamped on them. Fork dropouts are marked "Huret", there's nothing I can see so far on the rear dropouts. The seatpost binder lug has 72 stamped on it. I'm assuming it's the seat tube angle.
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Well, found 1750 on the drive side dropout after all.
An almost un-ridden Jubilee Sport has arrived, and it has "3109" on the BB shell in the same place; pics below.
I think it is all original, except for the tyres and tubes (missing).
It does not appear to match any of the Jubilee Sport models in the catalogs at bulgier.net, it's much more french.
Wheels are Rigida narrow rims with Maillard low-flange dates-codes 05/82 and 45/81.
Mechs are Huret Rival date-code 03/82, front is a Challenger or similar.
Crank is SR Custom, pedals SP-150.
Brakes Weinmann AG500.
Seatpost SR laprade, seat Selle Italia.
Stem SR, bars have the Motobecane M engraved on each side.
The forks have a Vitus 888 sticker, there is no tubing decal on the frame.
I think there never was one, everything else is nearly intact.
The frame weights 2305gm with the headset cups in, it's 57cm c-c.
The fork weighs 760 with the crown race on.
Seatpost is 26.2, seatube is 28.8 (plus paint), and the post IS the correct size.
Chainstays have no seams, but the headtube and steerer do.
The fork has a nasty looking bit of internal reinforcement.
So the gears and the wheels don't match, the tubing is missing a sticker and the seatube must be 1.2mm wall, which doesn't seem to match any of the catalog specs.
Here are the bb numbers - the 224900 is also on the driveside inner rear dropout face.
05-15-23, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by oneclick
This caught my eye as I was about to post.
An almost un-ridden Jubilee Sport has arrived, and it has "3109" on the BB shell in the same place; pics below.
I think it is all original, except for the tyres and tubes (missing).
It does not appear to match any of the Jubilee Sport models in the catalogs at bulgier.net, it's much more french.
Wheels are Rigida narrow rims with Maillard low-flange dates-codes 05/82 and 45/81.
Mechs are Huret Rival date-code 03/82, front is a Challenger or similar.
Crank is SR Custom, pedals SP-150.
Brakes Weinmann AG500.
Seatpost SR laprade, seat Selle Italia.
Stem SR, bars have the Motobecane M engraved on each side.
The forks have a Vitus 888 sticker, there is no tubing decal on the frame.
I think there never was one, everything else is nearly intact.
The frame weights 2305gm with the headset cups in, it's 57cm c-c.
The fork weighs 760 with the crown race on.
Seatpost is 26.2, seatube is 28.8 (plus paint), and the post IS the correct size.
Chainstays have no seams, but the headtube and steerer do.
The fork has a nasty looking bit of internal reinforcement.
So the gears and the wheels don't match, the tubing is missing a sticker and the seatube must be 1.2mm wall, which doesn't seem to match any of the catalog specs.
Here are the bb numbers - the 224900 is also on the driveside inner rear dropout face.
An almost un-ridden Jubilee Sport has arrived, and it has "3109" on the BB shell in the same place; pics below.
I think it is all original, except for the tyres and tubes (missing).
It does not appear to match any of the Jubilee Sport models in the catalogs at bulgier.net, it's much more french.
Wheels are Rigida narrow rims with Maillard low-flange dates-codes 05/82 and 45/81.
Mechs are Huret Rival date-code 03/82, front is a Challenger or similar.
Crank is SR Custom, pedals SP-150.
Brakes Weinmann AG500.
Seatpost SR laprade, seat Selle Italia.
Stem SR, bars have the Motobecane M engraved on each side.
The forks have a Vitus 888 sticker, there is no tubing decal on the frame.
I think there never was one, everything else is nearly intact.
The frame weights 2305gm with the headset cups in, it's 57cm c-c.
The fork weighs 760 with the crown race on.
Seatpost is 26.2, seatube is 28.8 (plus paint), and the post IS the correct size.
Chainstays have no seams, but the headtube and steerer do.
The fork has a nasty looking bit of internal reinforcement.
So the gears and the wheels don't match, the tubing is missing a sticker and the seatube must be 1.2mm wall, which doesn't seem to match any of the catalog specs.
Here are the bb numbers - the 224900 is also on the driveside inner rear dropout face.
but I recall it had something to do with going through all possible catalogs, photos and scraps of information I could find. The combo was somewhat weird, with Titane RD and Success FD from the 70's, with some unusual version of the Stronglight 105 TER crankset probably from the 80's (looking like later Spidel versions, but still with Stronglight markings), with Turbo saddle from 1985 (probably later "upgrade") and Weinmann concave rims. So it was a bit like someone has thrown whatever parts they had left. Which they were probably doing after the brand was sold out and the stocks were getting cleared...
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