vintage cable houing?
#1
vintage cable houing?
Who carries the stainless cable housing style that was OEM for the SunTour barcons? Just the bare spiral-wound stainless cable housings, not the clear vinyl-covered braided housings that VeloOrange sells.
I'll use the VO braided housings or blue vinyl housings to match the existing blue brake cable housings if I have to, but I'd prefer the original style uncovered housings.
Thanks in advance!
I'll use the VO braided housings or blue vinyl housings to match the existing blue brake cable housings if I have to, but I'd prefer the original style uncovered housings.
Thanks in advance!
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'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
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Bikes: 1986 Alan Record Carbonio, 1985 Vitus Plus Carbone 7, 1984 Peugeot PSV, 1972 Line Seeker, 1986(est.) Medici Aerodynamic (Project), 1985(est.) Peugeot PY10FC
The SS bare wire housings might be hard to find. I know the shorter version for the chainstay/RD is being sold by some eBayers (for not so cheap), but I don't remember seeing much of the longer version that were used for bar end shifters, maybe only a set or two in over two years of surfing around eBay.
#3
Yeah, I saw those 14" long rear derailleur sections on eBay - for $50
I can't believe that the SunTour barcons I bought NEW in '76 from Bike Warehouse cost only $9.99 - and they included the stainless cables/housings/downtube stop at that price!! I recently paid close to $50 for just the two shifters, another $18 for the double downtube stop, and the cable housings are near impossible to find! That $14 cable kit from V-O is looking better and better!
I can't believe that the SunTour barcons I bought NEW in '76 from Bike Warehouse cost only $9.99 - and they included the stainless cables/housings/downtube stop at that price!! I recently paid close to $50 for just the two shifters, another $18 for the double downtube stop, and the cable housings are near impossible to find! That $14 cable kit from V-O is looking better and better!
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'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
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And I recently pulled a pair (complete with ss housing) out of a box of a friend who is selling stuff off as he gets ready to move. I also got a Cyclone GT RD out of that box. somewhat off topic, and somewhat on.
#5
Go to ebay.it.
Search the terms "guaina grigia 4,5" https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_odkw=...4%2C5&_sacat=0
You will get cable housing for Vespas. Strip the vinyl off, and bobsyeruncle, stainless coil. I have about 6 meters myself.
Search the terms "guaina grigia 4,5" https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_odkw=...4%2C5&_sacat=0
You will get cable housing for Vespas. Strip the vinyl off, and bobsyeruncle, stainless coil. I have about 6 meters myself.
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Plus the crud and moisture gets between the cable and the housing much easier.....
I'd use the clear covered cable housing instead, with the plastic internal sleeve in it if I were mounting up some bar ends on a bike.....
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With the smaller cable, will a liner fit in?
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Retrofitting with an internal liner sounds like a good idea.......but not sure if they will fit as the old bare spring stuff must be small ID wise because it only had to accommodate a bare cable,........unless the modified/peeled Vespa sourced housing that iab suggested might have a bigger ID that will accommodate the liner....
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Worth money? I should have known. I tossed both pieces away when I cabled up the barcons on my High Plains. I used Jagwire housing instead.
Oops. I guess that's why it's rare.
Oops. I guess that's why it's rare.
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Go to ebay.it.
Search the terms "guaina grigia 4,5" https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_odkw=...4%2C5&_sacat=0
You will get cable housing for Vespas. Strip the vinyl off, and bobsyeruncle, stainless coil. I have about 6 meters myself.

Search the terms "guaina grigia 4,5" https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_odkw=...4%2C5&_sacat=0
You will get cable housing for Vespas. Strip the vinyl off, and bobsyeruncle, stainless coil. I have about 6 meters myself.
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#14
A fellow BF.net member contacted me with the offer of a set of used OEM SunTour housings for a VERY reasonable compensation. Thanks so much!!! (Not mentioning his name just in case he wishes to remain anonymous)
That's the last pieces/part I need to make my latest 'n+1' set up to where I want it. As soon as I get the housings, I'll be able to reposition the brake levers to my 'fit', convert to the SunTour barcons, and wrap the bars... I have a replacement leather seat (Japanese Brooks knock-off), but not sure I like it yet... It has a much different feel than my beloved Fuji's original Fujita Belt saddle.
Once that Univega project is complete and I'm satisfied with the ride, the Fuji will be outfitted as a fendered 'light' tourer.
That's the last pieces/part I need to make my latest 'n+1' set up to where I want it. As soon as I get the housings, I'll be able to reposition the brake levers to my 'fit', convert to the SunTour barcons, and wrap the bars... I have a replacement leather seat (Japanese Brooks knock-off), but not sure I like it yet... It has a much different feel than my beloved Fuji's original Fujita Belt saddle.
Once that Univega project is complete and I'm satisfied with the ride, the Fuji will be outfitted as a fendered 'light' tourer.
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'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
#15
Just saw this pop-up on VO's blog:

https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013...ample-box.html

How about this stainless steel cable housing? It should be perfect for restoring older bikes. It has a modern low-friction lining, but no plastic coating on the outside.
https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013...ample-box.html
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#18
Bumping this thread. I recently fell victim to the BF.net affliction known as N+1, and need yet another set of bare stainless shift cable housings for SunTour barcons... This time for a Univega Gran Tourismo touring bike.
So, are there any new/current sources for the stainless housing?
Also, this latest Uni is gold/bronze in color, and I'm not sure what color brake housing would look 'right'. The original housing is brown and in dire need of replacement. Red and use red panniers/bags? Yellow since I already have yellow panniers/bags?
So, are there any new/current sources for the stainless housing?
Also, this latest Uni is gold/bronze in color, and I'm not sure what color brake housing would look 'right'. The original housing is brown and in dire need of replacement. Red and use red panniers/bags? Yellow since I already have yellow panniers/bags?
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'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
#19
Who carries the stainless cable housing style that was OEM for the SunTour barcons? Just the bare spiral-wound stainless cable housings, not the clear vinyl-covered braided housings that VeloOrange sells.
I'll use the VO braided housings or blue vinyl housings to match the existing blue brake cable housings if I have to, but I'd prefer the original style uncovered housings.
Thanks in advance!
I'll use the VO braided housings or blue vinyl housings to match the existing blue brake cable housings if I have to, but I'd prefer the original style uncovered housings.
Thanks in advance!
Bicycle 5mm Lined Brake Cable Housing and Hardware Kit BMX MTB Clear Blue | eBay
Close up of cable housing. See the metal spirals inside.
Cable "Helpers" by velocivixen, on Flickrhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/130319.../shares/1R025g
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Best way to get it is with the bar cons or derailleurs. I tend to include them when I sell those pieces. Sure I could hose the buyer and keep them, or sell them separately. Just doesn't feel right.
Typically mine come in the form of a complete bike. Several models from the late 1970s came with barcons, and if it is a recreational level bike, most buyers don't appreciate them. Believe it or not, many would prefer stem shifters.
Typically mine come in the form of a complete bike. Several models from the late 1970s came with barcons, and if it is a recreational level bike, most buyers don't appreciate them. Believe it or not, many would prefer stem shifters.
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#22
That's a flattened wire. What I'm looking for was OEM for SunTour and Campy. Only .165" (4mm) OD. The new Uni has the original bare round-wire housing at both derailleurs already ( complete with crimped-on stainless ferrules), and I need the housing for the downtube cable stop (I need one of those, too...) up to the barcon shifters.
Last edited by Cougrrcj; 08-14-15 at 01:35 PM.
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Best way to get it is with the bar cons or derailleurs. I tend to include them when I sell those pieces. Sure I could hose the buyer and keep them, or sell them separately. Just doesn't feel right.
Typically mine come in the form of a complete bike. Several models from the late 1970s came with barcons, and if it is a recreational level bike, most buyers don't appreciate them. Believe it or not, many would prefer stem shifters.
Typically mine come in the form of a complete bike. Several models from the late 1970s came with barcons, and if it is a recreational level bike, most buyers don't appreciate them. Believe it or not, many would prefer stem shifters.
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'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
#24
This is an example of one of the short cables

The upper cable would have a ferrule on one end and be around three feet long
The upper cable would have a ferrule on one end and be around three feet long
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'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
'75 Fuji S-10S bought new, 52k+ miles and still going!
'84 Univega Gran Tourismo
'84 Univega Viva Sport
'86 Miyata 710
'90 Schwinn Woodlands
Unknown brand MTB of questionable lineage aka 'Mutt Trail Bike'
Plus or minus a few others from time-to-time
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