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Velognome 06-14-13 06:35 AM

Damaged Decals; repair, replace or respect?
 
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So, you've got a nice original or older restoration with a nice level of acquired patina.....but an original decal is badly damaged Do you replace it with a reproduction? Make a repair to minimize the visual effect ( and just how would you do that?) Or do you just call part of the package and live with it?
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rootboy 06-14-13 06:46 AM

If I could find a water slide decal that matched the quality of the original, I might replace it. But otherwise, I'd leave it.
A clear coated vinyl sticker just wouldn't match the rest of the decals, if any. 2 cents.

jonwvara 06-14-13 06:46 AM

You call it part of the patina and live with it. At least that's what you do if you're me.

KonAaron Snake 06-14-13 07:24 AM

I think it depends on the bike, the decal and how I used it. If it's a prior restoration, I'd probably restore it. If original, it's part of its charm most of the time.

Kobe 06-14-13 07:34 AM

On my _ _ _ winn Paramount I plan on just leaving it. It's part of the charm of an old bike and does not affect the ride.

http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps0035111d.jpg

oddjob2 06-14-13 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 15741471)
I'd leave it. A clear coated vinyl sticker just wouldn't match the rest of the decals, if any. 2 cents.

+1

rhm 06-14-13 07:46 AM

With the one you show, I think what I would do is replicate the decal, or perhaps just parts of it, on laser-printer waterslide paper; and apply the missing parts right over the existing parts. It would not come out perfect, but I could get it looking pretty good while causing absolutely no damage to the existing decal.

Barrettscv 06-14-13 07:56 AM

My Trek 970 frameset was received sans decals. It's clean look has grown on me and I have no plans to install replacements.

I'm not suggesting that anyone remove good decals. However, removing the last flakes of remaining material is an option.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps561c7e80.jpg

Velognome 06-14-13 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 15741700)
With the one you show, I think what I would do is replicate the decal, or perhaps just parts of it, on laser-printer waterslide paper; and apply the missing parts right over the existing parts. It would not come out perfect, but I could get it looking pretty good while causing absolutely no damage to the existing decal.

Aside from doing nothing, this sounds like the best option. The finish appears to be original with correct decals. I think just replacing the white area would visually correct the frames overall appearance. I'll trace out the missing parts and see if I have the skills.

John E 06-14-13 10:24 AM

I have a worse problem -- some idiot put a San Diego bicycle license decal right over the Reynolds 531 decal on Capo #2.

Chombi 06-14-13 10:55 AM

Depends on how badly its damaged......If you are talking about 30 percent of the decal missing.chipped off, you might start considering replacing or if possible, restoring it. But I think if the damage is less than that, you can try to just live with it as "patina" as others have already suggested.
It is also subjective to where tha damage is located. If the damage is small but happens to be in the most important/significant part of the decal, a replacement/restoration might be well justified....
JMOs

Chombi 06-14-13 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by John E (Post 15742441)
I have a worse problem -- some idiot put a San Diego bicycle license decal right over the Reynolds 531 decal on Capo #2.

And some of those license tag decals would not come off without crumbling apart (they usually do not peel off in one piece, but break into many small little pieces) and leaving the hardest to clean off glue goo laced with crumbled pieces of decal behind it....
Time for you to look for a replacement 531 decal......

Velognome 06-14-13 11:05 AM

I wonder if a little heat would let you remove the License without damaging the finish and decal. I suppose it there was a clear coat over the 531 decal you might stand a chance.

Chombi 06-14-13 11:55 AM

I'm wondering if the tubing makers and the bike manufacturer really expected their tubing decals to be so important to us owners in the future, By the way they put them on without any protective clear coat, they might have been thinking that it was OK for them to have very short lives on a bike frame.....and might have actually expected us to scratch and peel them off like dealer decals after we roll them out of their showrooms......

rootboy 06-14-13 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 15742633)
I wonder if a little heat would let you remove the License without damaging the finish and decal. I suppose it there was a clear coat over the 531 decal you might stand a chance.

Worth a try, and that's your best bet, but I doubt the decal will survive. I don't think they clear coated any of them back then.
Good luck though.


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