Damaged Decals; repair, replace or respect?
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Damaged Decals; repair, replace or respect?
So, you've got a nice original or older restoration with a nice level of acquired patina.....but an original decal is badly damaged Do you replace it with a reproduction? Make a repair to minimize the visual effect ( and just how would you do that?) Or do you just call part of the package and live with it?
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If I could find a water slide decal that matched the quality of the original, I might replace it. But otherwise, I'd leave it.
A clear coated vinyl sticker just wouldn't match the rest of the decals, if any. 2 cents.
A clear coated vinyl sticker just wouldn't match the rest of the decals, if any. 2 cents.
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You call it part of the patina and live with it. At least that's what you do if you're me.
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I think it depends on the bike, the decal and how I used it. If it's a prior restoration, I'd probably restore it. If original, it's part of its charm most of the time.
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With the one you show, I think what I would do is replicate the decal, or perhaps just parts of it, on laser-printer waterslide paper; and apply the missing parts right over the existing parts. It would not come out perfect, but I could get it looking pretty good while causing absolutely no damage to the existing decal.
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My Trek 970 frameset was received sans decals. It's clean look has grown on me and I have no plans to install replacements.
I'm not suggesting that anyone remove good decals. However, removing the last flakes of remaining material is an option.
I'm not suggesting that anyone remove good decals. However, removing the last flakes of remaining material is an option.
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With the one you show, I think what I would do is replicate the decal, or perhaps just parts of it, on laser-printer waterslide paper; and apply the missing parts right over the existing parts. It would not come out perfect, but I could get it looking pretty good while causing absolutely no damage to the existing decal.
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I have a worse problem -- some idiot put a San Diego bicycle license decal right over the Reynolds 531 decal on Capo #2.
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Depends on how badly its damaged......If you are talking about 30 percent of the decal missing.chipped off, you might start considering replacing or if possible, restoring it. But I think if the damage is less than that, you can try to just live with it as "patina" as others have already suggested.
It is also subjective to where tha damage is located. If the damage is small but happens to be in the most important/significant part of the decal, a replacement/restoration might be well justified....
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It is also subjective to where tha damage is located. If the damage is small but happens to be in the most important/significant part of the decal, a replacement/restoration might be well justified....
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Time for you to look for a replacement 531 decal......
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I wonder if a little heat would let you remove the License without damaging the finish and decal. I suppose it there was a clear coat over the 531 decal you might stand a chance.
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I'm wondering if the tubing makers and the bike manufacturer really expected their tubing decals to be so important to us owners in the future, By the way they put them on without any protective clear coat, they might have been thinking that it was OK for them to have very short lives on a bike frame.....and might have actually expected us to scratch and peel them off like dealer decals after we roll them out of their showrooms......
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Good luck though.
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