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sisddwg 06-19-13 09:06 PM

Too much spread?
 
Will my Reynolds 531 frame withstand spreading the rear dropouts from 110mm to 120mm without a great risk of dimpling the stays? Anyone have experience with this?

dddd 06-19-13 09:47 PM

I've spread a few 120mm frames out to 130mm, so as long as you have controlled leverage and can bend each side separately while measuring each side's 5mm movement, this is quite do-able.

This frame is a track bike?

Also, to help the stay's resist coming out of alignment while riding, it's best to bend each stay 6mm, then back 1mm. You'll see that it takes quite minimal force to bend back that 1mm, which is merely a stress-relieving process that helps the widened frame hold it's "adjustments" better later under riding stress.

repechage 06-19-13 10:29 PM

A reynolds frame with 110 as standard might be pretty old, so the chain stays are probably pretty long. Yes, it can be done.

sisddwg 06-19-13 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by dddd (Post 15762292)
I've spread a few 120mm frames out to 130mm, so as long as you have controlled leverage and can bend each side separately while measuring each side's 5mm movement, this is quite do-able.

This frame is a track bike?

Also, to help the stay's resist coming out of alignment while riding, it's best to bend each stay 6mm, then back 1mm. You'll see that it takes quite minimal force to bend back that 1mm, which is merely a stress-relieving process that helps the widened frame hold it's "adjustments" better later under riding stress.

Yes, a 1951 R. O. Harrison track. Thanks for your good tip about stress-relieving.

sisddwg 06-19-13 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 15762391)
A reynolds frame with 110 as standard might be pretty old, so the chain stays are probably pretty long. Yes, it can be done.

The frame is a 62 year-old track frame and the chain stays are well over 16 inches.

T-Mar 06-20-13 06:07 AM

+1. I've done changes of that amount to Reynolds 531 without issue. The only way you'll damage the stay is by getting too aggressive, usually on the first try. The best approach for a beginniner is to ease into things, gradually increasing your force until you get a permanent deflection.

sisddwg 06-21-13 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 15762881)
+1. I've done changes of that amount to Reynolds 531 without issue. The only way you'll damage the stay is by getting too aggressive, usually on the first try. The best approach for a beginniner is to ease into things, gradually increasing your force until you get a permanent deflection.

Oh, T-Mar are you ever right on the first-try-aggressiveness!

Velognome 06-21-13 04:15 PM

10cm? All day long! It's wise to clamp the Bridge so you don't put stress on the joint. I spread this from 110 to 120 without any issue. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8107/8...2222c137_z.jpg

sisddwg 06-23-13 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 15769019)
10cm? All day long! It's wise to clamp the Bridge so you don't put stress on the joint. I spread this from 110 to 120 without any issue. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8107/8...2222c137_z.jpg

I presume that you mean both the chain stay bridge and the brake bridge. What method of clamping did you use? That's a gorgeous bike. BTW, I also have a Maclean Featherweight, 1957, KD403.


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