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non-fixie 06-23-13 11:11 AM

Need help with a fake Raleigh
 
Picked up this "Team Raleigh" earlier this week for the Stronglight triple that was on it. PO had said in his ad that it wasn't a real Raleigh, but he couldn't remember what it was. It has a few distinguishing features, but I haven't been able to match them yet. The only other bike I've found with the same lug shape so far is a Motoconfort.
It's not high-end, but it's my size so I'm thinking that with an AW hub, dark green paint and gold-lined lugs it might be a nice tourer.

Any idea what it could be? TIA.

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-4EXDHU33.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-HNC47ZXW.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-DVGBLTUR.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-RJ8GKKKG.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-WFGXJ8FD.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-IWZXVCNS.jpg

juvela 06-23-13 11:21 AM

the fixed cup is Flandria proprietary.

could be a clue...

non-fixie 06-23-13 02:02 PM

Flandria? Mmmmmm .... Thanks, Juvela.

juvela 06-23-13 02:26 PM

VAR makes/made a jaw for their fixed cup tool specifically to fit this unique cup.

non-fixie 06-23-13 02:52 PM

I think you are right. I just googled a few Flandria's and those lugs and pump pegs appear there too. Cool! I have a couple of Superia's and a Flandria was really kind of missing ...

juvela 06-23-13 03:34 PM

and now you can add it to the "show us your Belgian bikes" thread!

non-fixie 06-23-13 03:37 PM

Good point! Will do. (It could use a bump)

Italuminium 06-24-13 06:07 AM

wow, that was some quick CSI'ing. Looks like a nice frame for a fast and upright project.

non-fixie 06-24-13 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Italuminium (Post 15776216)
wow, that was some quick CSI'ing. Looks like a nice frame for a fast and upright project.

Yes, the sleuthing power of C&V is enormous! I'm still unsure what to do with it. 700c wheels look a little lost in this frame, so maybe 27" with fenders? Some red Bluemels maybe?

non-fixie 06-24-13 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Chuckk (Post 15777264)
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/664815-Another-Raleigh-ID-request

Not the same starting point, but similar in work to my buddy's Schwaleigh!

Yeah, I love these challenges.

juvela 10-01-13 06:44 PM

there is another one of these in a new thread:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...dria-Road-Bike

this machine has a separate tubular seatstay bridge for rack mounting. have not seen this arrangement before.

according to another recent thread machine is likely to have been contructed in Portugal.

non-fixie 10-02-13 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by juvela (Post 16123087)
there is another one of these in a new thread:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...dria-Road-Bike

this machine has a separate tubular seatstay bridge for rack mounting. have not seen this arrangement before.

according to another recent thread machine is likely to have been contructed in Portugal.

Thanks. Yes, I read that bit about Portugal. Now where's that "Show us your Portugese bikes" thread?

Dustin sterling 03-19-18 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 15773933)
Picked up this "Team Raleigh" earlier this week for the Stronglight triple that was on it. PO had said in his ad that it wasn't a real Raleigh, but he couldn't remember what it was. It has a few distinguishing features, but I haven't been able to match them yet. The only other bike I've found with the same lug shape so far is a Motoconfort.
It's not high-end, but it's my size so I'm thinking that with an AW hub, dark green paint and gold-lined lugs it might be a nice tourer.

Any idea what it could be? TIA.

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-4EXDHU33.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-HNC47ZXW.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-DVGBLTUR.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-RJ8GKKKG.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-WFGXJ8FD.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Grotefoto-IWZXVCNS.jpg

how long is the spindle.

non-fixie 03-19-18 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Dustin sterling (Post 20232702)
how long is the spindle.

Measured it in situ: 123 mm. Don't know what the taper is, though.

EDIT: took the spindle out and checked: it's a Stronglight. It is marked '125' and measures close to 124 mm. Other markings are 'A' and 'S' on one side and '2' and '25' on the other.

juvela 03-19-18 04:02 PM

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original spindle would have been cottered with a satin chrome finish and marked in the centre "FLANDRIA MADE IN PORTUGAL" in quite small letters.

shell BSC thread & 70mm in width.

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non-fixie 03-19-18 04:35 PM

Shell is indeed 70mm. My spindle measurements:

A: 30mm
B: 56mm
C: 38mm
D: 124mm
https://myalbum.com/photo/p65J0Sev9LUE/1k0.jpg

clubman 03-19-18 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by non-fixie (Post 15778655)
Yes, the sleuthing power of C&V is enormous! I'm still unsure what to do with it. 700c wheels look a little lost in this frame, so maybe 27" with fenders? Some red Bluemels maybe?

Black Bluemel Populars.

non-fixie 03-20-18 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 20233548)
Black Bluemel Populars.

Black would look good. Prefer the Club Specials' shape, though, with the ridge. :)


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