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#26
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Bikes: Trek 600 ,1980Raleigh Competition G.S., 1986 Schwinn Passage, Facet Biotour 2000, Falcon San Remo 531,Schwinn Sierra, Sun Seeker tricycle recumbent,1985 Bianchi Squadra
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#27
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OP; Recommend looking for a clean Bianchi NR or SR from the mid-1980's. In Celeste green of course. These have nice Columbus tubed frames and mostly Campy bits. Can be found at really good prices and are from before things started to get proprietary and complicated.
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#28
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From: Fleetwood, PA, USA
Bikes: '84 Colnago Super; '90 Bridgestone MB-1; '81 Trek 930; '01 Cinelli Supercorsa; '62 Ideor Asso; '87 Tommasini Super Prestige; '13 Lynskey R2300; '84 Serotta Nova Special; '94 Litespeed Catalyst; etc.
Your starting point for vintage does not need to be insanely expensive or even European. Late '70s to mid 80's Treks in Reynolds 531 or Ishiwata 022 are going to be well within your price range, as will Peterson-era Bridgestone road bikes (RADAC, RB-1, RB-2, RB-T, XO-1, XO-2). Handling of those makes tends to be pretty neutral, particularly in the case of the Bridgestones.
Italian bikes are different in character, even when the are built from the same tubes and use the same parts groups. Some have handling which is just way too fast outside of the peloton, and so are not fun to ride unless you drink way too much of that horrible espresso like the Italians do. Tommasini and Rossin are two that got it right and have good artisan build quality (particularly the former). Other names to consider (though you'd better ride them first) are Masi, Colnago, Frejus, De Rosa. Columbus SL rides the best, with the SLX slightly behind it.
French bikes require French parts or a hell of a lot of intrepidity. Since many of the French parts were, shall we say, merde (oh, Simplex, why did you think Delrin was a good idea?), the intrepidity is required more often than not. It allows you to retrofit SunTour derailleurs and extra-duty Sakae Ringyo or Nitto stems in place of the evil AVA death stems that too often came standard on those bikes. The payoff is ride quality. Very few bikes can match the smoothness of a PX-10 or Grand Jubilee.
Italian bikes are different in character, even when the are built from the same tubes and use the same parts groups. Some have handling which is just way too fast outside of the peloton, and so are not fun to ride unless you drink way too much of that horrible espresso like the Italians do. Tommasini and Rossin are two that got it right and have good artisan build quality (particularly the former). Other names to consider (though you'd better ride them first) are Masi, Colnago, Frejus, De Rosa. Columbus SL rides the best, with the SLX slightly behind it.
French bikes require French parts or a hell of a lot of intrepidity. Since many of the French parts were, shall we say, merde (oh, Simplex, why did you think Delrin was a good idea?), the intrepidity is required more often than not. It allows you to retrofit SunTour derailleurs and extra-duty Sakae Ringyo or Nitto stems in place of the evil AVA death stems that too often came standard on those bikes. The payoff is ride quality. Very few bikes can match the smoothness of a PX-10 or Grand Jubilee.
#29
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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lhope you have more knowledge or can direct me to some resources.
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From: Normal, Illinois
Bikes: Trek 600 ,1980Raleigh Competition G.S., 1986 Schwinn Passage, Facet Biotour 2000, Falcon San Remo 531,Schwinn Sierra, Sun Seeker tricycle recumbent,1985 Bianchi Squadra
I've only seen a couple, and a Belgian Browning, which seemed quite similar. Quality looked above the sort of things you saw with other basic bikes of that era, decent finish. Not heavy, but I would not have classified it as what we would now think of as a lightweight. At about that time, I came into posession of a bike made by Matthias Stollenwerk of Aachen, also very similar. Good European consumer 10 speeds, but I thought they were better than Asian imports of the time. But I also have to say that we did not see many Asian bicycles in the Midwest in the 70's. Schwinn was the common heavyweight consumer bike, as well as Columbias, and Raleigh and French Bicycles were your step up.
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