I do not understand this.
07-05-13 | 04:34 PM
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I do not understand this.
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/produ...s#.UddJL-7TmUk
It is a flipp'in HEADSET. Adjust it once and forget it. If cared for, they don't hardly ever go bad. They are not rocket science. WHY?
It is a flipp'in HEADSET. Adjust it once and forget it. If cared for, they don't hardly ever go bad. They are not rocket science. WHY?
07-05-13 | 04:51 PM
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Newer model bikes headsets do go bad. Sometimes in a few years or less, due to sweat, weather, etc. What makes it even worse, that headsets now have gone to the point of ignorant. There is no longer a standard, and some are proprietary even to model of bike. Many times at the bike shop, we had to order a headset directly from the bike manufacturer, just to be sure it would fit. Mainly it is the cause of integrated headsets, a useless "innovation".,,,,BD
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07-05-13 | 04:59 PM
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Use Campy, gets thousands of miles. The average mileage on my Campy head sets is 10,000 plus.
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07-05-13 | 05:32 PM
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Newer model bikes headsets do go bad. Sometimes in a few years or less, due to sweat, weather, etc. What makes it even worse, that headsets now have gone to the point of ignorant. There is no longer a standard, and some are proprietary even to model of bike. Many times at the bike shop, we had to order a headset directly from the bike manufacturer, just to be sure it would fit. Mainly it is the cause of integrated headsets, a useless "innovation".,,,,BD
with this tool
07-05-13 | 06:25 PM
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I have a Specialized S Works E5 that came to me with a bad proprietary headset. I am largely unfamiliar with modern headsets, after some research and some headset spacers I was able to fit a Cane Creek headset that is much nicer than the original.
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07-05-13 | 11:00 PM
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Newer model bikes headsets do go bad. Sometimes in a few years or less, due to sweat, weather, etc. What makes it even worse, that headsets now have gone to the point of ignorant. There is no longer a standard, and some are proprietary even to model of bike. Many times at the bike shop, we had to order a headset directly from the bike manufacturer, just to be sure it would fit. Mainly it is the cause of integrated headsets, a useless "innovation".,,,,
07-06-13 | 12:10 AM
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07-06-13 | 08:57 AM
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Oh, but it IS rocket science!!! Had slightly whacky headset with some brinelling going on in the bearings of my 79 LeTour. Interesting when your front wheel self centers....at least it centered itself STRAIGHT! [h=1][/h]
07-06-13 | 09:06 AM
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07-06-13 | 09:57 AM
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As noted, the answer isn't applicable to C&V. The headset interface has changed.
There is only one reason not to use modern, sealed bearing headsets which are superior in every way; period-correctness.
There is only one reason not to use modern, sealed bearing headsets which are superior in every way; period-correctness.
07-06-13 | 10:01 AM
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sealed bearing headsets which are superior in every way
07-06-13 | 10:07 AM
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That's not my logic, but neither do i wear a union suit because it "works just fine". It's modern boxer briefs for me.
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07-06-13 | 10:08 AM
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Cartridge bearing threadless headsets are pretty nice. I put one of these in a recent build. Classic looks with modern cornvenience!
Even a fork swap is a simple operation. 15 minutes, easy. It takes me that long just to re-wrap one side of bar tape (just one part of the operation if I were to swap forks with an olde-fashioned setup).
Even a fork swap is a simple operation. 15 minutes, easy. It takes me that long just to re-wrap one side of bar tape (just one part of the operation if I were to swap forks with an olde-fashioned setup).
