Do/Should you own at least 1 "modern" road bike?
07-27-13, 03:32 PM
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I have a modern bike, which I use most, I just find it overall a better experience. The vintage bike is still fun to ride, completely different; smoother.
07-27-13, 03:40 PM
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07-27-13, 03:58 PM
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07-27-13, 04:03 PM
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I have modern road bikes in the sense that they have some carbon them and STI shifters, but I have never owned anything with more than 9 in the back; so while I may be modern, I'm definitely not contemporary.
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07-27-13, 04:08 PM
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I got into bicycles through racing a modern bike. As I got more into the cycling lifestyle, I began dabbling with C&V. I only have a small stable of bikes, and no high performance classics, so when I want to go fast, it's my SuperSix.
07-27-13, 04:12 PM
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Need a modern bike? No, but I would recommend a bike in the stable with modern components. Get yourself an slx frame and fit it with the group and wheels of your choice. Way cheaper than modern bikes, better looking, and most of the performance.
colnago circa 1984, Campagnolo circa 2007
colnago circa 1984, Campagnolo circa 2007
I like some of the CF stuff that passes me but I'm 62 with a good steel excuse for getting blown into the ditch at times. Besides I can't even afford (or want to bother with) upgrading to cassette hubs with my bills. I stock up on chains, freewheels and toeclips and enjoy the compliments that my plain Jane Trek didn't even get when she was new.
07-27-13, 04:17 PM
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Need a modern bike? No, but I would recommend a bike in the stable with modern components. Get yourself an slx frame and fit it with the group and wheels of your choice. Way cheaper than modern bikes, better looking, and most of the performance.
colnago circa 1984, Campagnolo circa 2007
colnago circa 1984, Campagnolo circa 2007
This.
07-27-13, 04:20 PM
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Nice but I hope you hang onto the original stuff too.
I like some of the CF stuff that passes me but I'm 62 with a good steel excuse for getting blown into the ditch at times. Besides I can't even afford (or want to bother with) upgrading to cassette hubs with my bills. I stock up on chains, freewheels and toeclips and enjoy the compliments that my plain Jane Trek didn't even get when she was new.
I like some of the CF stuff that passes me but I'm 62 with a good steel excuse for getting blown into the ditch at times. Besides I can't even afford (or want to bother with) upgrading to cassette hubs with my bills. I stock up on chains, freewheels and toeclips and enjoy the compliments that my plain Jane Trek didn't even get when she was new.
unless someone goes to a lot of work, it will forever be a resto mod.
07-27-13, 04:21 PM
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original stuff? All three of my bikes were obtained (and originally sold) as framesets. The colnago in paticular is a lost cause for restoring it to original condition. A previous owner had joe bell knock off the shifter braze ons prior to the custom paint:
unless someone goes to a lot of work, it will forever be a resto mod.
unless someone goes to a lot of work, it will forever be a resto mod.
07-27-13, 04:26 PM
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Thanks 
i love how it rides. It isn't as smooth as my tommasini, but it is solid and confident. It also generates odd looks and conversations. People are shocked to learn the frame is older than me.
i love how it rides. It isn't as smooth as my tommasini, but it is solid and confident. It also generates odd looks and conversations. People are shocked to learn the frame is older than me.
07-27-13, 04:33 PM
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There is no denying the advantage of brifters for competitive riding or other intense circumstances where shifting and braking reactions are simultaneously critical. My walk of life does not expose me to anything of the sort, and I find riding on the drops much more comfortable than on the hoods, for any extended period, so for the time being, I have no jealousy for modern brifter kit. I do have a few bikes with indexed shifting, and I can't say I dislike it.
. I like them fine, though. I don't use friction too often though as I do like indexing and rely mainly on bar end and downtube shifters. I may go back to friction on one of my bikes though.
07-27-13, 05:08 PM
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Shoota...I have MOST of a DA headset...it is unfortunately missing a couple bits...Thinking about throwing it up on the Trade zone, as it IS unusable to me with missing crown race. I would hate to destroy it trying to match it up with a race that doesn't fit it right.
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07-27-13, 05:21 PM
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original stuff? All three of my bikes were obtained (and originally sold) as framesets. The colnago in paticular is a lost cause for restoring it to original condition. A previous owner had joe bell knock off the shifter braze ons prior to the custom paint:
unless someone goes to a lot of work, it will forever be a resto mod.
unless someone goes to a lot of work, it will forever be a resto mod.
For my own $.02... I have only ever owned "new' bikes, either new or only a couple years old. The only time i ever rode steel was converting my moms old 80s Schwinn Into a single speed for strength training on short group rides. i just sold off my '11 Supersix and am currently building up an 80s Reynolds 531 frame. I got it free from a guy who had already stripped the paint and was thinking about junking it. So I figured the modern group would go perfect with the classic steel. Looking forward to feeling the difference in the ride, as my SS would try to tattle my fillings out.
07-27-13, 07:59 PM
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Yup, black ring with Dura Ace on it...got it at a garage sale, didn't notice the missing bits till I got home...Tried to get back there, but the guy had moved...he was a former bike shop owner and had lots of bits....Missed an 80s Paramount by 10 minutes!!!!!
07-27-13, 08:20 PM
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Bummer about the paramount. The headset isn't the one I'm looking for anyway, thanks tho!
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07-27-13, 09:42 PM
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how does the triple/quad butted tubing (ishiwata) compare to columbus slx? its completely different makers im assuming?
07-27-13, 09:45 PM
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Yep Ishiwata makes Ishwata and Columbus makes Columbus. Don't know how they compare exactly though.
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07-27-13, 09:52 PM
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The quad Ishi and SLX should ride pretty similar if the belly wall thicknesses are similar, if you compare standard diameter tubesets.
SLX is SL with reinforcing helical ribs on the inner surface, creating the effect of a thicker wall (stiffer tubing). Base wall thickness for SL is 0.6 mm with 0.9 mm butts. I'm not sure what the belly thicknesses are for Ishi quad or triple butted.
The makers of Columbus (i.e, Columbus) and the makers of Ishiwata are different companies using alloys, or formulations of steel, that are similar. More modern steels (Infinity, Nivachrome, 853, OX Plat, et cetera) are a lot stronger than CrMo (Columbus Cyclex) and 531.
SLX is SL with reinforcing helical ribs on the inner surface, creating the effect of a thicker wall (stiffer tubing). Base wall thickness for SL is 0.6 mm with 0.9 mm butts. I'm not sure what the belly thicknesses are for Ishi quad or triple butted.
The makers of Columbus (i.e, Columbus) and the makers of Ishiwata are different companies using alloys, or formulations of steel, that are similar. More modern steels (Infinity, Nivachrome, 853, OX Plat, et cetera) are a lot stronger than CrMo (Columbus Cyclex) and 531.
07-28-13, 12:29 AM
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I own a little bit of everything, but not a whole lot. Nothing wrong with having nothing but C&V or all modern bikes. I do the majority of my rides on modern bikes.
07-28-13, 12:57 AM
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Ishiwata tubing is as good as any... the quad butted tube sets were wonderful and suitable for greater strength in frames like my Cascade Expedition bike (which is still fairly light) while the lightest Ishiwata tube sets made for some exceptionally light and strong road frames.
07-28-13, 01:38 AM
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Isn't the modern stuff on the fragile side of things if you are not always on at least semi decent roads?
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07-28-13, 02:23 AM
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Modern-ish, anyway
Most of my bikes have these:
However, one of my bikes has these:
They're on this:
The frame was custom-built in 2002 and most of the components are mid-to-late 90s; that's why I append "ish" to the word modern. It feels much more modern than the downtube shifter-equipped bikes, though - particularly with the 53/39 crankset (which is much easier on my aging knees) and the interesting properties of the 853 tubeset.
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Most of my bikes have these:
However, one of my bikes has these:
They're on this:
The frame was custom-built in 2002 and most of the components are mid-to-late 90s; that's why I append "ish" to the word modern. It feels much more modern than the downtube shifter-equipped bikes, though - particularly with the 53/39 crankset (which is much easier on my aging knees) and the interesting properties of the 853 tubeset.
DD
