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spanky4x4 04-08-05 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by USAZorro
If I recall correctly, Sheldon Brown did this with a bike. http://sheldonbrown.org/otb.html

it would be possable if you could find the right old parts. with ebay it may be possable but with the local bike shops.....no way!

**rant mode on**
took new to me 1986 miyata myn bike in to see if they could confirm how to adjust the old dia compe canti brakes as I had never done it on anything that old. apparently neither had thay. one comment was"I have only worked on v-brakes...nothing like that" idiots
**rant mode off**

besides,im trying to think simple on this one! cool idea,just not right for me

USAZorro 04-08-05 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by spanky4x4
besides,im trying to think simple on this one! cool idea,just not right for me

I hear that. Otherwise, I'd have a 30 speed or two myself. V-brakes, cantilevers - both those inventors should hang their heads in shame.

Totoro 04-10-05 06:54 AM

Found a rusted out cheapo DB mountain bike in the trashheap yesterday. One of the brakes had been replaced with SHIMANO Deore XT Rear Linear Pull V-BRAKES. Pulled it along with the Ritchie seat and post, and front and rear altus derailleurs. The rest went back in the heap. It had other good parts on it, but I was feeling lazy yesterday.

Not as great as my previous finds, but worth a mention. Will be great for spares or for my next restoration project.

platenspeler 04-10-05 07:40 AM

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I was looking for a rear wheel, found this Colnago Super and took it home. After all I did not need the wheel so decided to cleanup the Colnago a little. Replaced spokes, repaired flat tire, straighten rim, adjust rear derailer. It is in a reasonable condition, but the paint under the top bar has partly gone and first rust is coming due to storage of previous owner.

It has 5 speed Suntour, the brake handles on the bar are Shimano 600 and probably replacements.

How old would this bike be?

Maarten

RetroSteel 04-10-05 09:46 AM

That Colnago looks from mid-late 70's

ac71 04-10-05 10:10 AM

I am sorry, but it doesn't looks like a Colnago. Absolutely...

TheOtherGuy 04-10-05 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by platenspeler
I was looking for a rear wheel, found this Colnago Super and took it home. After all I did not need the wheel so decided to cleanup the Colnago a little. Replaced spokes, repaired flat tire, straighten rim, adjust rear derailer. It is in a reasonable condition, but the paint under the top bar has partly gone and first rust is coming due to storage of previous owner.

It has 5 speed Suntour, the brake handles on the bar are Shimano 600 and probably replacements.

How old would this bike be?

Maarten

Bike looks like late '70s, early '80s. Absolutely not a Colnago; neither Super nor any other model...
Someone put Colnago decals on, 'cause the Colnago name has impressed people for years. Very cool CLB brakes though!

ac71 04-10-05 11:04 AM

I confirm. I think there are thousands of not original Colnagos on the market

colinm 04-11-05 02:40 PM

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Update on that SGP -

Removed the chainwheel protector, added a Sora RD, suede saddle and alu alloy 27"s with 1 1/8" rubber. Man, this is a nice riding bike. I sailed around in 42/16 for an hour after I built it back up - I just couldn't stop. (I shifted once in a while, but I find a sweet spot and go...) Pics in the AM.

el twe 04-11-05 06:08 PM

I got my Velox installed! Yay! It's sooo nice, but I still need to finese a few things (cable stretching, and I might end up taking out a chain link or two...).

luker 04-12-05 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by platenspeler
I was looking for a rear wheel, found this Colnago Super and took it home. After all I did not need the wheel so decided to cleanup the Colnago a little....

How old would this bike be?

Maarten

Very cool brakes. But, no, not a Colnago. I've been studying 'em for a while. Supers and Mexicos have a little spikedy detail on the side of the head lugs on all of the older ones that I've seen. And some embossing of the top of the fork crown...and always a clover cutout on the bottom bracket. I think that the older ones had a pointy bottom on the clover; the newer ones had a flat bottom on the clover. And I've never seen a Colnago with fender eyelets. A good paint job, though. and really cool brakes.

luker 04-12-05 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by colinm
These are all nice bikes, but I absolutely HATE the pie-plate spoke protectors.

Generally I do too, but I recently got a Gitane with a really snazzy set of maillard hubs - and an equally snazzy drilled out aluminum maillard spoke protector. I'm actually thinking about leaving it on!

platenspeler 04-13-05 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by luker
Very cool brakes. But, no, not a Colnago. I've been studying 'em for a while. Supers and Mexicos have a little spikedy detail on the side of the head lugs on all of the older ones that I've seen. And some embossing of the top of the fork crown...and always a clover cutout on the bottom bracket. I think that the older ones had a pointy bottom on the clover; the newer ones had a flat bottom on the clover. And I've never seen a Colnago with fender eyelets. A good paint job, though. and really cool brakes.

Thanks all for the help. Too bad for the "colnago", but bought it for the wheels originally and it cost me almost nothing. About the brakes; I had never seen these brakes before. What makes them special?

Maarten

TheOtherGuy 04-13-05 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by platenspeler
About the brakes; I had never seen these brakes before. What makes them special?

Maarten

CLB made some of the lightest weight brakes of their time, and they were uncommon here in the USA.

Iride 04-13-05 07:08 PM

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My catch of the day,,
A couple of free 1977 raleigh grand prix.
One small mens, and one mixte.
pics of the mixte below. Notice the original clear "packaging wrap" on the handle bars. the original bar tape is bright white underneath.
-Steve

TheOtherGuy 04-13-05 07:13 PM

FREE...!?! Too cool... LUCKY!

Iride 04-13-05 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy
FREE...!?! Too cool... LUCKY!

I was offered them last fall by my boss's wife, but didn't take the time to look. When he asked me to take his trash out, I saw them hanging in the garage. I had to ask again for them. Definately considering keeping the mixte for my wife. But then I couldn't sell the mens and break up the pair. Just blows my mind the original condition of these, especially the handle bar wrap. (no need to take the time to take it off just for a couple spins in the driveway).

cranky 04-14-05 08:36 PM

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I know nothing about vintage bikes, but I came across this Magneet at a thrift store. I do know that I can't find a whole lot of info on it, only 1 small thread in BikeForums. I saw the cool seat, the crazy wingnuts, and the Made in Holland sticker and I couldn't pass it up! It set me back $35 US, which is a lot compared to some places, but I live in an urban area and we pay a premium here for beater bikes. You cant lock your good bike anywhere if you want to keep it. Now I'm thinking if it gets stolen, I'd sure be bummed. This is my second backup beater bike. The first one is a Panasonic, and I love that one too.

luker 04-14-05 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by cranky
I know nothing about vintage bikes, but I came across this Magneet at a thrift store. I do know that I can't find a whole lot of info on it, only 1 small thread in BikeForums. I saw the cool seat, the crazy wingnuts, and the Made in Holland sticker and I couldn't pass it up! It set me back $35 US, which is a lot compared to some places, but I live in an urban area and we pay a premium here for beater bikes. You cant lock your good bike anywhere if you want to keep it. Now I'm thinking if it gets stolen, I'd sure be bummed. This is my second backup beater bike. The first one is a Panasonic, and I love that one too.

ya. bikes are like dogs. It followed me home, can I keep it? I'd wondered where perjohn seats came from; I have a new one in the stack of seats in the garage, but it came without a bike underneath it.

USAZorro 04-14-05 10:58 PM

For the last two weeks, I've had an ad in the weekly, free (the paper, not the ads) local paper. I got my first "valid" hit - someone with an old (1980?) Peugeot Grand Sport. I go and look at it - nothing all that special, but everything works smoothly. I figured I could part it out and possibly double the $25.00 I paid for it.

I get it home and as soon as he heard it was a Peugeot (they make cars too - which makes it desireable to him), my son says he wants it. It's dirty, but the decals and paint are remarkably good. The lad claims he'll clean it, but now I need to lay hands on an appropriate crank puller. Only the French would engineer a crankset where the outer chainring is integral to the crank! :rolleyes:

This means I should have a spiffed-up Follis ready to put on the block soon.

No pictures - the wife comes home in 7 days, so we have to work fast.

zoogirl 04-14-05 10:58 PM

Ah, recycling week! Gotta love it...

Our neighbouring city, Delta, held it's Trash Trade this week. Picture the world's biggest yardsale and all of it free! I grabbed my younger son and went out a couple of evenings to have a look. We did pretty well. I got a couple of kickstands and a very good chrome fender that's going on my Triumph, along with a decent rattrap. He scored a huge self-propelled lawnmower. (He does small motor repairs and mows lawns. He already went to work with the thing this afternoon.)

Yesterday, I had to go out there to do Nature Club at one of the elementry schools. I took the bus because I wasn't sure how long it would take to ride. Good thing. On the way back, I decided to nip down a sideroad for a quick peep at the piles. I spotted a couple of guys just putting out a bike. My score?

Old Venture Caprice classic ladies 5-speed, in extremely good shape. Hardly a mark on the paint, perfect decals, great rims and fenders, oiled and clean chain, great brakes, derailleurs and gears, one flat tire, but the tires themselves are fine.

My theory is, someone rode it for a few months, got a flat and left in in the garage for a few years. Whoohoo! I do love the old style bikes, too, so it was a perfect score for me. Yeah, I know, Venture, but hey, the price was great!

Poguemahone 04-15-05 06:12 AM

"Only the French would engineer a crankset where the outer chainring is integral to the crank! "

I think the Japanese got there first with that particular innovation. Not sure, tho, but I see it on Lower-end Japanese bikes now and again, models earlier than I've seen said crank type on Pugs. If the crank is marked "Peugeot" it should take a standard 22mm puller. By 1980 the stock cranks on all Peugeots took the standard puller, even when the cranks were made by Stronglight. If it doesn't, likely is an old Stronglight puller, 23.35mm. Or maybe a TA. If the dust caps on the crank have an "S" it is a stronglight.

Poguemahone 04-15-05 06:18 AM

"I know nothing about vintage bikes, but I came across this Magneet at a thrift store"

I've got a Magneet. Still have yet to do a thing with it. Interesting bike, mine has Campy shifters and mechs, nothing hi-end. Yours looks like Simplex from the shifters. What little I've been able to find indicates Magneet primarily made euro city bikes. They were absorbered by Batavus, a larger Dutch maker, around 1970, though Batavus manufactured bikes under the Magneet name at least until 1972. That is the whole extent of my knowledge on the Magneet.

USAZorro 04-15-05 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Poguemahone
If the crank is marked "Peugeot" it should take a standard 22mm puller. By 1980 the stock cranks on all Peugeots took the standard puller, even when the cranks were made by Stronglight. If it doesn't, likely is an old Stronglight puller, 23.35mm. Or maybe a TA. If the dust caps on the crank have an "S" it is a stronglight.

Cranks say Peugeot, dust caps say Stronglight. I tried threading the puller in last night, but got little slivers of threads coming off when I attempted it. Wanted to make sure I didn't destroy it before continuing. Thanks

Poguemahone 04-15-05 07:10 AM

"Cranks say Peugeot, dust caps say Stronglight. I tried threading the puller in last night, but got little slivers of threads coming off when I attempted it. Wanted to make sure I didn't destroy it before continuing. Thanks"

Take a very good look at the threads on the crank before proceeding. They may be stripped or damaged already, which may result in the slivers. I had a similar one lately; I placed some oil on the threads and very carefully threaded in the puller, which re-tapped the crank. Your standard crank puller will not even thread into the older stronglight and TA cranks; it will just drop in as it is too small. The Stronglight and TA size pullers are the only other two french sizes I am aware of, both are bigger in diameter than the standard.

luker 04-15-05 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by USAZorro
Cranks say Peugeot, dust caps say Stronglight. I tried threading the puller in last night, but got little slivers of threads coming off when I attempted it. Wanted to make sure I didn't destroy it before continuing. Thanks

check to see if your dust caps'll thread into a japanese crank. If so a regular puller should work on the stronglight cranks. If not, you'll have to find a stronglight puller (LBS?)

that's why we all love the french bikes, btw. They're always soooo challenging. Not as bad as old English. Each company seemed to make their own wrenches and fasteners there.

USAZorro 04-15-05 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by luker
check to see if your dust caps'll thread into a japanese crank. If so a regular puller should work on the stronglight cranks.

I tried the reverse. Sugino dust covers thread on nicely. Guess I just need to take it slow and careful with the crank puller. Since the Follis is definitely French thread, and it has cotters, I think I'll just take it to the LBS for an exorcism. :D

lotek 04-15-05 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Poguemahone
"I know nothing about vintage bikes, but I came across this Magneet at a thrift store"

I've got a Magneet. Still have yet to do a thing with it. Interesting bike, mine has Campy shifters and mechs, nothing hi-end. Yours looks like Simplex from the shifters. What little I've been able to find indicates Magneet primarily made euro city bikes. They were absorbered by Batavus, a larger Dutch maker, around 1970, though Batavus manufactured bikes under the Magneet name at least until 1972. That is the whole extent of my knowledge on the Magneet.

here's what I know:
Magneet was established 1909 in Amsterdam by
Alexander Velleman and Abraham Gompert Verdoner.
they moved to Weesp, Netherlands after a fire.
They were one of the first Dutch framemakers
to offer a Cross frame (ca. 1935) (no not cyclocross, see below)
Up to this time they built mostly citybikes and workbikes.
In the late 30's they build a track frame for Cor Blekemolen
a well known professional. This helped Magneet
pioneer light touring and recreational bikes in the Netherlands.
During the 2nd world war Magneet(the company) was dismantled
by the Wermacht due to Verdoner's being Jewish, he goes into
hiding for the duration of WWII, his factory is converted to
produce Fokker aeroplanes.
Verdoner died in 1947, never returning to bicycle manufacturing.
The company moved into an old chocolate factory and set up
a modern bicycle manufacturing process.
In the 60's Magnet was the importer of Peugot work bikes.
Due to changes in the industry in the mid to late 60's
the firm merged with Batavus in 1969, by 1976 Magneet
no longer existed in any form.
That's all I have on Magneet, all in all a large
builder but not known for high end bikes.
If that one was mine I would keep it and not
use it as beater, its pretty unusual to say the least.

Below is copy of Advert from 1937. The frame on the
left is the cross frame, of which the most modern
form is the mixte.

Marty

lotek 04-15-05 09:20 AM

sorry to hog the catch thread with the above but I
couldn't resist.

Might move it if enough folks complain!

Marty

Poguemahone 04-15-05 11:48 AM

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Yes, I've been keeping the Magneet simply because it is so darned odd. They have very good paint, BTW, better than anything of like vintage from France or Italy. And what the heck, it was only five bucks. Here's a photo or three:


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