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67tony 09-05-13 04:50 PM

Suntour barcons
 
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So I've got two similar Suntour barcons, for a Nishiki Cresta GT city commuter. They'll (probably) go into mustache bars. Call me anal, but I'd like the barcons to be identical, which leads me to four questions:
  1. Are one of these better than the other? With the Accushift, on the right, I don't think my unusual 3-pulley Suntour XC Sport RD is compatible for index shifting so I will be using it in friction mode. The Power Control, on the left, has a nice micro-ratcheting feel but is missing the foil label.
  2. Would anybody have one or the other (in one of those famous parts bins) they would consider offering up to me?
  3. Would I wrap the ends with something before insertion to help them catch and grip while expanding? There is about 2mm of space, which the expanding spring/cam system can take up, but it seems to be at almost maximum diameter. Any tricks or tips?
  4. I'm planning on wrapping bar tape from the bar ends to the middle of the bars...is that usual for barcon installs?

As usual, thanks a ton for any and all input. :thumb:

lee kenney 09-05-13 05:14 PM

Bar cons
 

Originally Posted by 67tony (Post 16035501)
So I've got two similar Suntour barcons, for a Nishiki Cresta GT city commuter. They'll (probably) go into mustache bars. Call me anal, but I'd like the barcons to be identical, which leads me to four questions:
  1. Are one of these better than the other? With the Accushift, on the right, I don't think my unusual 3-pulley Suntour XC Sport RD is compatible for index shifting so I will be using it in friction mode. The Power Control, on the left, has a nice micro-ratcheting feel but is missing the foil label.
  2. Would anybody have one or the other (in one of those famous parts bins) they would consider offering up to me?
  3. Would I wrap the ends with something before insertion to help them catch and grip while expanding? There is about 2mm of space, which the expanding spring/cam system can take up, but it seems to be at almost maximum diameter. Any tricks or tips?
  4. I'm planning on wrapping bar tape from the bar ends to the middle of the bars...is that usual for barcon installs?

As usual, thanks a ton for any and all input. :thumb:

You have a pair, the accushift is for RD , No need to wrap expanders , wrap those bars any way you like , try deep sea fishing rod handles .

Grand Bois 09-05-13 06:03 PM

People will tell you that you can't tuck cloth tape into the bars if you're using Barcons. Maybe they can't, but I can and I've done it more than once. You just have to tuck smoothly and maybe help the Barcons in with a couple of taps with a soft hammer.

due ruote 09-05-13 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 16035639)
People will tell you that you can't tuck cloth tape into the bars if you're using Barcons. Maybe they can't, but I can and I've done it more than once. You just have to tuck smoothly and maybe help the Barcons in with a couple of taps with a soft hammer.

+1 I like to wrap top down for a clean look with shellaced cloth; tuck in bar end before inserting the barcon. Do people really say this doesn't work?
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wrk101 09-05-13 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 16035639)
People will tell you that you can't tuck cloth tape into the bars if you're using Barcons. Maybe they can't, but I can and I've done it more than once. You just have to tuck smoothly and maybe help the Barcons in with a couple of taps with a soft hammer.

+1 While I never tuck the bar tape under the bar cons, I just rescued a set off a donor bike, each one had bar tape underneath. No problem.

67tony 09-05-13 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by lee kenney (Post 16035560)
You have a pair, the accushift is for RD.

I bought these assuming they were a pair, but several things have me wondering why they are considered a pair. One has micro-clicks while the other doesn't, they are labeled differently, and even the rubber covers are shaped differently.

67tony 09-05-13 07:21 PM

O.K., I see how the barcon would fit with cloth tape tucked into the bars, but what if I were to use a gel/cork tape? No way that fits tucked in, right?

whatwolf 09-05-13 07:28 PM

No, I wouldn't try. I always wrap the bars starting at the ends, and always (esp. for bar-end shifters) cut the tape at an angle at the start and finish. I've never tucked tape into the barcons, but I like thicker tape.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7283/9...f01c8947_z.jpg

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Drakonchik 09-05-13 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by 67tony (Post 16035851)
. . . . and even the rubber covers are shaped differently.

The left rubber appears to be from an Accushift 6 speed top-bar thumb shifter. A swap-in.

DiegoFrogs 09-05-13 08:16 PM

I've started at the bar ends by wrapping a bit beyond the bars with cork tape. Then, after I finish, I cut a little off, tuck it inside and insert the barcon. It's a little tricky this way because you want to get the housing in just the right place.

Jeff Wills 09-05-13 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by Drakonchik (Post 16035941)
The left rubber appears to be from an Accushift 6 speed top-bar thumb shifter. A swap-in.

+1. I think the OP has a genuine pair of shifters that have been well used and spent time in a shop parts bin.

Lascauxcaveman 09-05-13 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by due ruote (Post 16035697)
+1 I like to wrap top down for a clean look with shellaced cloth; tuck in bar end before inserting the barcon. Do people really say this doesn't work?

If you're going to shellac, you can wrap them any damn way you please. Nothing is going to budge that, short of whatever thinner you use to undo shellac.


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